Every time i get AA , i lose, why?

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  • #51
Aces are not invincible. unfortunately it can happen that they beat you with this hand
 
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  • #52
If you are consistently losing with AA then you are most likely playing them wrong. AA will lose sometimes and it is out of your control but for it to lose consistently doesn't make logical sense unless you are allowing multiple people to see a flop.
 
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  • #53
On PokerStars when You have a A in hand the very most time You will win,there are moments when You lose,butt the most time You win.lol
 
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Exaggeration for effect? Selective memory? The math says that AA wins about 80% of the time when heads up. A little less than that in multi-way pots. It's all good, keep playing them. A little positive thinking will help you feel better about this.
 
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  • #55
I think we as poker players tend to remember the bad beats more than the times where our good hands hold and therefore it just seems that way
 
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That happens very little, whenever I have AA I ALWAYS WIN, 2 times I only lost but the rest always came out winner, what you say is that sometimes poker is like that you can lose even with premiun hands, but that will not always happen, to The long AA always has an advantage, and earns almost 95%, that's how it is.
 
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Im a bit of an all-in player, and play AA very strong, but its far from 100%!!
 
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  • #58
brow02 said:
Why every time i get the Ases i lose ?, bad luck? or the destiny? idk but i hate this hand cause i lose even against pair of 22 , and they get another 2 in the flop.:(


The best move with AA preflop is to go all-in, and you will either take down the pot before the flop, win the hand after all cards are dealt or lose. But if you lose you can feel good about it because you made the right move.
 
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When you get AA you either get all in before flop or you can fold beacuse things can get messy after flop
 
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You need to raise the pot enough that all the limpers will fold there cards. If you try to slow play AA or KK thats when you'll get yourself into trouble. If you flop against a single opponent you'll have about an 85% chance of winning the pot. Against two opponents your chances of winning go down to almost 70% and against three opponent you're only going to win about 60% of the pots.
 
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  • #61
Is just bad luck.
You need raise with AA on pré flop to avoid trouble.

All In is good to (with less than 20BB) but with more than that, the best move is raise 3X, if someone was raise before you, you go for 3bet.

Never, NEVER call one blind, you giving chance to big blind or other players broke your AA.
I know some players like do only call with AA, to maximize total chips won but this is a risk.

Is better win blinds and antes with raise 3x with an AA than lose with one call, you need safety.
 
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There's a few reasons why this could be happening:
1) You're overvaluing the hand post-flop - If you're playing a cash game, taking account stack-to-pot ratio (SPR) is important. It's the size of the effective stack (the smallest stack still in the hand) divided by the size of the pot:
Eff Stack / Size of Pot = Stack-to-Pot Ratio (SPR)
The SPR determines how "committed" we are to a pot, if we hold top-pair or better. It's adjustable depending on who we're playing, but on the whole, the following is best:
SPR 0-3 = We auto stack-off with TP+
SPR 3-6 = Situational (Depending on our opponent and board texture)
SPR 6+ = Don't auto stack off (unless against fish or with very strong hands)
To give an example. Let's say our opponent under the gun has a 50BB stack, we have 100BB on the button.
UTG bets 3BBs
We raise to 10BBs holding AA. It folds back round to UTG.
UTG calls 10BBs.
There's 21.5 BBs, and the effective stack is 40BBs. This gives a SPR of approximately 1.9. If the flop was K98, we would be looking to auto stack-off regardless of what happened.
Now, let's say our opponent is in the BB and has 100BBs, same as us.
We bet 3BB under the gun holding AK. If folds to the BB.
BB calls 3BB
There's 6.5BBs in the pot, and we both have 97BB's in our stacks. The SPR would be 15. Now, looking to stack off on a K98 board becomes tricky. And it's because of Step 2.
2) Your Opponent Could Be Crushing your Pair When Their All-In
The higher an SPR, the stronger our hand needs to be in order to stack off. We need to take into account:
  • The opponent's tendencies
  • The board texture
A fish is more likely to stack off on K98 board with KX, but what about a TAG or nit player? Would they go all-in with KX? QQ? If not, what hands are they likely to get it in with? A set? Two pair?
Depending on the opponent, we need to consider that in some occasions, we're taking our line that maximises value against a range our opponent could be holding that we can value bet against, rather than looking to stack off and potentially put us in a position where our opponent will only call or raise with a range of hands that crush us. If the opponent is getting aggressive and the pot is getting large, we may need to consider folding our pair, even when it's pretty as Aces.
3) Variance (Sheer Dumb Luck)
AA is the best hand pre-flop in poker, but it's still beaten approximately 20% of the time against KK. And math has no memory. It's certainly possible to have a string of bad results with your big hands that make it feel like poker is rigged.
If you haven't got tracking software, I'd recommend that you get it. There are the standards such as Poker Tracker or Hold'em manager, but there's budget versions too such as DriveHUD or Hand2Note. These will keep a database of all the hands you play so you can look at AA and see whether you are profiting or losing in the long run with AA.
- If you are still profiting, then good, it's likely variance that's doing you in.
- If you are losing, or not winning as much as you should, look through the hands where you have AA. Are steps 1) and 2) coming into play?
To summarise:
  • The SPR in the hand can be a key factor into whether you stack off or not against an opponent
  • You need to take into consideration the opponent you're playing. Are they the types who stack off with top-pair or less? If not, folding may be an option to consider if the pot gets large.
 
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brow02 said:
Why every time i get the Ases i lose ?, bad luck? or the destiny? idk but i hate this hand cause i lose even against pair of 22 , and they get another 2 in the flop.:(
you are not the only one such a fellow ... so many of us fall into it .. you think my bank .. but fortune is a friend with humor
:rolleyes:
 
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I recently played with two of the cards ... because I won luck with a small pair ... that's why he is poker .. they just need to worry so much .... have to
:rolleyes::rolleyes::mad:
 
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moulan7 said:
Happens xD

Why do you bet so small on the flop?
I always wanted to ask this question and now it's my chance xD.

Say the truth, you want to frustrate your opponent, don't you? Confess! xD


I wanted more people to call or raise.
 
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I would rather have AA than any other starting hand. Wish I could learn to not slow play them so much. You must force others out even if you only win the blinds.
 
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lanelane said:
I wanted more people to call or raise.

Thanks for the reply.
You are playing only against one on the flop.
But you don't gonna win much if for example your opponent has J10 and just calls you and he's gonna see the next card very cheap.
I guess you want to provoke a larger bet from him, which seems that it worked well this time. xD
Sadly you lost the hand though.
 
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charliej said:
I would rather have AA than any other starting hand. Wish I could learn to not slow play them so much. You must force others out even if you only win the blinds.

I think we need to just play them like any other hand. Especially if there is only one raise preflop that got just called by one or more people.
We don't have to play for stacks.
And definitely don't slow play preflop. We can probably slow play them only when we hit hard (full house on flop) and has nothing left for our opponents to draw upon.
 
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moulan7 said:
Thanks for the reply.
You are playing only against one on the flop.
But you don't gonna win much if for example your opponent has J10 and just calls you and he's gonna see the next card very cheap.
I guess you want to provoke a larger bet from him, which seems that it worked well this time. xD
Sadly you lost the hand though.

Sorry, I thought you asked about the preflop call.
You think very well, I wanted to call a bigger one. I trusted the pair of aces.
 
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In the past few days I have been VERY unlucky with it. I've played in various ways, from showe to limp, patiently or rushing and the outcome is always the same. Lost to 36o in a $5.5 as well as in freerolls. I tilted, still tilted, but is the game. Sometimes just doesn't go.
In the other hand, my 88 is getting the job done. Go figure ;)
 
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Remember it is never a mistake to go all in preflop with Aces NEVER!
 
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That is quite sick!
I had a similar situation once during my NL Hold'em cash days, when I just returned from a tilt break and received AA as my first hand.
Opponent all-in preflop with AJ, flop all blanks, turn J, river J.
Not quite as spectacular as runner-runner quads, but the odds must have been similar on the flop.
 
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  • #75
totally untrue.....
againts one other random hand AA can win up to 85% of time..... my states millions of hands is 82% so i play AA well overall....but more important then ANY 2 CARDS is POSITION period.... so its me ISOLATING opponents or ideally one opponent with aa i like 3-4 personally but then its about position and the flop and the table....

its better to continuation bet and take down the pot 3-4 villians then to continue and take a beat !!!!!

each player you let into the pot shortens your odds of AA winning.....

when you KNOW you have played 10k hands invest into a HUD

review your hand history you will be surprised imho if not surprised again your playing wrong.....

work with a group to go over hands watch others how they play winning players

i can say for a fact 1010 has won me the most money at important points in a tournament in my BIG tournament win history and QQ both ways me or vs has been my nemesis but both are close too how it should be when I play them overall

just a little below top average

i find i overplay kq offsuit is one nemesis and ak at times can be ak though hits right over a major amount of hands

kq is something ive overplayed and lost as last hand too often and it shows in my stats i overvalue it ;)

do your research AA should win for you 80% but you have to be ok winning a little over it holding up all the time
 
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