Matt Vaughan
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RESURRECTION!!!
1. I probably bet halfish/fold. There's still plenty worse in his range that can call. We could also x/f if we know he's not betting worse.
2. I tend to just complete here. What are we really hoping to accomplish when we raise? Either we get folds (fine, but probably unlikely), or we go HU or three-way to a flop in the worst position, with a hand that plays pretty badly even with the initiative. As played, bet bigger OTF. As played OTF, I like the turn sizing so you can jam river for just under pot, but his flop calling range is going to be pretty inelastic here I think. So we can just size bigger and gii even more easily on later streets, where his range might become more elastic as the board gets scarier for his weak-ish range.
3. Again, I really think you need to size bigger OTF. It's wet, and there's so many worse hands that aren't going to fold for 80-100% pot. As played, turn and river look good. When he doesn't raise turn I'm not too worried about flushes, but if he has one he's going to x/r, so we can just confidently bet/fold. Turn and river sizing look pretty good to me. On the turn especially I wouldn't go too large, since a good portion of his range is going to be TP OTF which is now 2nd pair OTT. Again, river looks solid.
4. It kind of sucks, because on this kind of board, villain just isn't that strong all that often. So I definitely go for the x/c flop, x/r turn line. If he has an overpair, it's unlikely he gets away, but his range is too air-heavy OTF. We need to give him the chance to barrel it off with gutshots OTT imo. As played, size the river bigger imo. He checks back Tx OTT like 100%, but he's not folding on this particular river when it pairs the J. He's never going to give us credit for better than Tx here.
5. Against an unknown I probably take the same line as you in-game, but I think the turn or the river is probably a fold. Turn I'm on the fence, river I'm pretty sure. You just won't see many opponents donk x 2 with a draw, let alone barrel when it misses. His Kx flatting range in the SB is also generally going to be stronger than ours unless he's a mega-drooler, which is unlikely since he's managed to fold 4 out of his first 5 hands preflop
So just sigh-fold the river, or make a solid, exploitative turn fold. Again, don't think I find the fold in-game, but seems like a slam-dunk imo.
6. Flop and turn are 100% standard. We're getting 4:1 OTT which means we don't even need to make significantly more money on river bets when we hit, assuming we're even behind. His sizing indicates a weak K or perhaps a pair + GS or pair + OESD type hand to me. I hate the river bet because I think we beat most of his range, and nothing we're ahead of is going to bet the river. I'd much prefer a river x/f, and I don't even think it's that close.
Also, no need to apologize imo. This thread needs life.
1. I probably bet halfish/fold. There's still plenty worse in his range that can call. We could also x/f if we know he's not betting worse.
2. I tend to just complete here. What are we really hoping to accomplish when we raise? Either we get folds (fine, but probably unlikely), or we go HU or three-way to a flop in the worst position, with a hand that plays pretty badly even with the initiative. As played, bet bigger OTF. As played OTF, I like the turn sizing so you can jam river for just under pot, but his flop calling range is going to be pretty inelastic here I think. So we can just size bigger and gii even more easily on later streets, where his range might become more elastic as the board gets scarier for his weak-ish range.
3. Again, I really think you need to size bigger OTF. It's wet, and there's so many worse hands that aren't going to fold for 80-100% pot. As played, turn and river look good. When he doesn't raise turn I'm not too worried about flushes, but if he has one he's going to x/r, so we can just confidently bet/fold. Turn and river sizing look pretty good to me. On the turn especially I wouldn't go too large, since a good portion of his range is going to be TP OTF which is now 2nd pair OTT. Again, river looks solid.
4. It kind of sucks, because on this kind of board, villain just isn't that strong all that often. So I definitely go for the x/c flop, x/r turn line. If he has an overpair, it's unlikely he gets away, but his range is too air-heavy OTF. We need to give him the chance to barrel it off with gutshots OTT imo. As played, size the river bigger imo. He checks back Tx OTT like 100%, but he's not folding on this particular river when it pairs the J. He's never going to give us credit for better than Tx here.
5. Against an unknown I probably take the same line as you in-game, but I think the turn or the river is probably a fold. Turn I'm on the fence, river I'm pretty sure. You just won't see many opponents donk x 2 with a draw, let alone barrel when it misses. His Kx flatting range in the SB is also generally going to be stronger than ours unless he's a mega-drooler, which is unlikely since he's managed to fold 4 out of his first 5 hands preflop
6. Flop and turn are 100% standard. We're getting 4:1 OTT which means we don't even need to make significantly more money on river bets when we hit, assuming we're even behind. His sizing indicates a weak K or perhaps a pair + GS or pair + OESD type hand to me. I hate the river bet because I think we beat most of his range, and nothing we're ahead of is going to bet the river. I'd much prefer a river x/f, and I don't even think it's that close.
Also, no need to apologize imo. This thread needs life.



