OldschoolSteinhausen said:Ya agreed. Its not a horrible call for him to make, but unless he has the button its probably not great.
yea its not like the best choice in the world but assuming i get to be IP i dont mind calling my SC here and there.
OldschoolSteinhausen said:Ya agreed. Its not a horrible call for him to make, but unless he has the button its probably not great.
LD1977 said:This is FTP? At 10NL FR there are some huge fish (aggro type), all you need to do to destroy is identify them and sit on their left. Easy peasy. Dunno about 6-max but I assume it is almost the same.
Basically I think the easiest way to win is to sort the player types correctly with NOTES (use colors).
Players to look for:
1) aggrofish - Sit on their left.
2) autobettor fit-or-folders (weak but attack perceived weakness with multiple barrels) - This is by far the most profitable player type in the universe (because they can be bled over time basically forever once you identify them). Sit on their RIGHT and play counter-poker 😀 if they realize what you are doing, switch the strategy. Once they stop autobetting every check you basically own their souls and they are your bitches. Being feared is fun and profitable.
3) whales - Weekends. 'nuff said. Sit left.
4) maniacs - Best is to simply know who they are. They tend to come back a lot. Sit left.
Expect variance vs. types 1, 3 and 4 but such is life.
I am not sure if V does database analysis and note taking after live play. But that's a good tip for him to start doing if so.LD1977 said:None of the hands posted on this page have "Rush" or "Fast" in the title, so I figured they aren't Rush.
Even if they are:
1) it is trivial to put a few stats in the HUD
2) there is such a thing as session analysis, where he can put notes on players (all hands are shown completely)
3) there is also database analysis which easily identifies big losers and from there all it takes is some time to analyze them
Yes it is easier to robotically click buttons and say "I can't use my brain in Rush/Zoom, it is SO fast man" but it is more profitable this way.
Feel free to use the suicide smiley, it suits you. Also double facepalm at "impossible". Incredible stuff.


Figaroo2 said:Do you have any idea why your red line fell away so sharply at the end?
I found playing at higher limits the players are 3 betting more and are a bit more sticky and not folding on the flop and floating the turn more in position. My redline was suffering until I tightened up in EP so have the hand strength to 4 bet and 3 barrel these players more often.
Scourrge said:Tbh, you can't really look at someone's graph alone and say that there is an issue with redline just because it appears subjectively steep.
Scourrge said:Not really much to explain. A tight player playing in a loose, aggressive game might lose quite a lot on their red line, but it will be balanced by their blue line because people are stacking it off so light that the only times the hero is even winning pots is by getting to showdown. Or a very laggy player in a nitty game might have their lines "flipped," with a positive red line and a negative blue line, because the only times he DOES get called down on his bluffs, he's crushed. A very strong player in a very soft game (imagine Phil Ivey playing 2nl) might manage to have both lines positive and crushing.
None of those graphs is inherently bad in any way, and without further info on how the hero is playing hands, you can't really say that having a steeply negative is "bad." Again, MOST winning players have a positive blue line and a negative red line.
In Vinyl's specific case, as he said, his graph represents a variety of stakes, with the larger ones (25nl specifically) at the end. So naturally the swings will be significantly steeper, since all of the pots are relatively larger.
LD1977 said:Yeah it is incorrect to mix different levels on the same graph and try to draw conclusions.
Figaroo2 said:I would suggest, if you haven't already done it, you examine your graph closely to see where the big rises and falls happened and how they relate to how you were playing.
For example it looks like you had a massive cooler between 70 and 80K in hands...tilted?
Then you got it back togethor with a great upswing from hands 80-84K and then lost it all again.
The point is I think its good to look back on the chart and learn...If there was tilt then next time to recognise it and stop playing before you undo all your good work.
Ultimately your redline has wiped all your profit and I think that is therefore where you need to look to improve.
I know you like rush/zoom fast style poker but I think you would benefit from trying out different formats and stakes to see if there are other formats you can beat.
My red line is going downwards but not to the same extent...lets not make this about my stats. (i'll pm you with those)
bernotas22 said:great stuff vinyl, so you started off this challenge with a $10 deposit with only 5 buy ins for 2nl if so is that enough for that level you think?
micromachine said:Vinyl is good enough to crush 2nl so he needs less buyins than less experienced players but still 5 isn't enough for anyone, he could've easily gone bust.
/Logan/ said:Viny could you post graph with ev-line and results by stake with ev-bb?
I have this idea that you was on a god mode heater when you was playing 2nl/5nl, maybe bad results on 10nl/25nl are not that you playing bad,
like you mention you probably are better player now than when started the challenge but could be just variance geting even for early run good.
Also, this is all rush right?. Maybe should try reg tables, they are less swingy.
