*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

[vinylspiros]

GONNA STOP THE WHINING CAUSE THIS JUST HAPPEND AND IM REALLY HAPPY.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂. its not rigged after all.

If i dont come here crying to my people then where else am i gonna vent? lol
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($98.78)
Hero (SB) ($38.30)
BB ($35.50)
UTG ($33.87)
MP ($67.81)
CO ($49.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 6

1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 10

, 6

, 5

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $1.43, Hero calls $1.43, 2 folds

Turn: ($5.86) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.36, CO calls $4.36

River: ($14.58) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $31.76 (All-In), CO calls $31.76

Total pot: $78.10 | Rake: $2

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 6

, 6

(four of a kind, sixes).
CO had 10

, 10

(full house, tens over sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $76.10

 

[vinylspiros]

this just happend

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (Button) ($48.53)
SB ($26.65)
BB ($134.92)
UTG ($25.10)
MP ($39.42)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, 4

2 folds, CO raises to $0.54, Hero calls $0.54, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.58, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.04

Flop: ($3.80) 3

, 10

, 2

(2 players)
BB bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25

Turn: ($16.30) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $127.09 (All-In), Hero calls $40.70 (All-In)

River: ($97.70) 4

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $97.70 | Rake: $2

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had A

, 4

(straight, five high).
BB had 10

, 7

(one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $95.70

 

[Figaroo2]

woo woo, lets have a party and your buying!!
Interesting flat with A4s on the btn, I take it he was just a bully.
What an awful shove from the villain

 

[vinylspiros]

woo woo, lets have a party and your buying!!
Interesting flat with A4s on the btn, I take it he was just a bully.
What an awful shove from the villain

yea man. im up 10 buy ins just from today at 25NL and its amazing. Playing really good at the moment.

His stats were way off thats why i flatted it. he could be 3betting to that small size with just about anything so i figured lemme take a flop and see what happens.

 

[IPlay]

GONNA STOP THE WHINING CAUSE THIS JUST HAPPEND AND IM REALLY HAPPY.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂. its not rigged after all.

If i dont come here crying to my people then where else am i gonna vent? lol
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($98.78)
Hero (SB) ($38.30)
BB ($35.50)
UTG ($33.87)
MP ($67.81)
CO ($49.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 6

1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 10

, 6

, 5

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $1.43, Hero calls $1.43, 2 folds

Turn: ($5.86) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.36, CO calls $4.36

River: ($14.58) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $31.76 (All-In), CO calls $31.76

Total pot: $78.10 | Rake: $2

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 6

, 6

(four of a kind, sixes).
CO had 10

, 10

(full house, tens over sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $76.10

Hey man, Why did you donk turn and overbet shove river? Some villains could fold AK or AA in this spot which is bad, not sure if anything but a boat is calling river unless you have a history with villain IDK about. With that said I think you check the turn again because villain will be firing this K with a lot of bluffs and sometimes making a hand so x/raising is better and x/calling and x/jamming river I would think best since villain might barrel off here sometimes and will also bet his value hands that will call a large river donk. Gotta get the money, not help villains make hero folds. Awesome it worked out for you in this spot though 😀

 

[vinylspiros]

Hey man, Why did you donk turn and overbet shove river? Some villains could fold AK or AA in this spot which is bad, not sure if anything but a boat is calling river unless you have a history with villain IDK about. With that said I think you check the turn again because villain will be firing this K with a lot of bluffs and sometimes making a hand so x/raising is better and x/calling and x/jamming river I would think best since villain might barrel off here sometimes and will also bet his value hands that will call a large river donk. Gotta get the money, not help villains make hero folds. Awesome it worked out for you in this spot though 😀

Heres the thing. I sometimes follow unconventional lines in order to look like im full of $hit. When i Donk pot turn when the king comes out, firstly i look like im :

A-bluffing
B-Picked up a flush draw
C-desperate to get folds and also hes never folding a King here so i want to make sure he doesnt check behind and i dont have enough room to get a good river bet in. If i call his flop bet, there are not many kings in my range so i thought donkk betting the turn would get calls from some hands and also look very bluffy.


Then when he calls it(and especially with the huge sizing i feel like hes commited so by jamming river i feel like i put him in a spot to make mistakes), and river comes another six,im sure he has a set of tens,Kx, or 55. So i thought lemme just get it in here and hoping i get paid off.

Some people can see this Jam as a very badattempt to steal after betting a flush draw on the turn and just jamming river in an attempt to steal the pot.


Anyways. This is just some random madness i have in my head that i think about while in game. Not saying i always get calls here.


Just saying how i think it played out more or less.

 

[vinylspiros]

This just happend. Was hoping he had aces on the river but A6 will do.lol

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($27.34)
SB ($25)
BB ($27.56)
UTG ($38.54)
MP ($41.19)
Hero (CO) ($28.46)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, K

1 fold, MP raises to $0.62, Hero raises to $2.21, 2 folds, BB calls $1.96, 1 fold

Flop: ($5.14) 10

, 6

, K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, BB calls $2.70

Turn: ($10.54) K

(2 players)
BB bets $6.71, Hero calls $6.71

River: ($23.96) K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16.84 (All-In), BB calls $15.94 (All-In)

Total pot: $55.84 | Rake: $2

Results below:

Spoiler

BB had A

, 6

(full house, Kings over sixes).
Hero had A

, K

(four of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $53.84

 

[vinylspiros]

WOOT WOOT!!!! CHECK OUT STACK SIZES. THIS IS HUUUGE FOR MY STANDARDS.🙂🙂🙂

BEFORE THIS GUY CALLED THE RIVER JAM HE TYPED IN THE CHAT "nooooooooooo"AND THEN HE CALLS IT.LOL.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($40.06)
SB ($56.32)
BB ($26.40)
UTG ($25)
MP ($53)
Hero (CO) ($80.97)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, K

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 9

, K

, 10

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.90, SB calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.55) 10

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.64, SB calls $2.64

River: ($8.83) J

(2 players)
SB bets $8.75, Hero raises to $76.68 (All-In), SB calls $43.28 (All-In)

Total pot: $112.89 | Rake: $2

Results below:

Spoiler

SB had J

, 10

(full house, tens over Jacks).
Hero had K

, K

(full house, Kings over tens).
Outcome: Hero won $110.89

 

[skrsh76]

you seem to be killing it.. Way to Goooooo

 

[vinylspiros]

this is correct right? villain is a 59/41/4 with a 42% 3bet over 17 hands(sample issmall but we all know where its headed)

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($36.40)
SB ($49.05)
BB ($29.19)
UTG ($45.52)
MP ($33.88)
Hero (CO) ($39.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, A

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Button raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.90, Button calls $3.65

Flop: ($10.15) Q

, J

, 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9.69, Hero folds

Total pot: $10.15 | Rake: $0.46

Results below:

Spoiler

Button didn't show

 

[IPlay]

Some sketchy bet sizings here. You overbet jamming when you have the nuts isnt very good. Its nice you coolered people and got calls but against the range of hands they have in these spots the shoves not optimal. Also makes you pretty exploitable which is something to think about on stars.

Also, AA hand is better as a bet/fold, might actually just get it in. X/folding is ehhhhh

 

[xdeucesx]

I hate x/folding in the AA hand imo. Like, this guy is 59/41, splashing around wildly and we make an overpair + gutshot to nut straight and we want to x/fold? I think were ahead here more often than behind, so I kind of actually like x/jam tbh. I doubt this type of player is ever folding and we can commit him with all his one pair + draw hands, flush draws, etc. So many KQ, KJ, J9, Q9, AQ, etc. that will just GII here.

Even against sets, were not destroyed since we have outs and I think w/this type of player, it's highly likely he just GII pre w/QQ, leaving a few combos of sets left.

 

[duggs]

im in favour of b/gii, i dont want to let him x behind

 

[vinylspiros]

the only combo he has in his range that i beat is KK. QQ,JJ,TT and AK that are really likely to be in his range no matter how high his 3bet percentage is, all have me crushed. Lets not forget to mention 2 pair type hands.

This is a textbook fold in my opinion. You cant make money by making calls like this esp when he knows were mega strong and he just goes ahead and pots it. come on guys. seriously?

whats he potting with? sixes? You feel me. like i mean, our hand is not in too good shape the way the action wennt down preflop on this particular flop. Any other flop and id be cool with it. I really think there is a ton of AK in his range here.



I want to add that everyone knows,even the fish, that with all the preflop action on the flop a check from me in this spot looks like textbook trapping(nutted hands), so even if he didnt have it would he be betting that big? Thats the only messed up part .that by me checking here i dont know what the hell to do with my hand. After looking at it again i think that maybe b/f to jam is a better option?


Edit: thinking back to when i was in play, i think i intentionally checked for him to bet and maybe, jam it in my self ,but his sizing caused alarms so thats prolly why i folded.

 

[duggs]

the only combo he has in his range that i beat is KK. QQ,JJ,TT and AK that are really likely to be in his range no matter how high his 3bet percentage is, all have me crushed. Lets not forget to mention 2 pair type hands.

This is a textbook fold in my opinion. You cant make money by making calls like this esp when he knows were mega strong and he just goes ahead and pots it. come on guys. seriously?

whats he potting with? sixes? You feel me. like i mean, our hand is not in too good shape the way the action wennt down preflop on this particular flop. Any other flop and id be cool with it. I really think there is a ton of AK in his range here.



I want to add that everyone knows,even the fish, that with all the preflop action on the flop a check from me in this spot looks like textbook trapping(nutted hands), so even if he didnt have it would he be betting that big? Thats the only messed up part .that by me checking here i dont know what the hell to do with my hand. After looking at it again i think that maybe b/f to jam is a better option?


Edit: thinking back to when i was in play, i think i intentionally checked for him to bet and maybe, jam it in my self ,but his sizing caused alarms so thats prolly why i folded.

you checking isnt textbook trapping, its textbook giving up, most value hands bet such a dynamic board, he has AJ/AK/AQ/T9/K9/KJ/KQ/KT in his range.

You cant use his sizing as evidence when we dont have that evidence when make our first decision, seems like a great spot to bet.

 

[Dorugremon]

For some reason, im not too happy about not check/calling river?????? (also is my flop bet too weak?)


Take a look at this:


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($5.18)
SB ($21.64)
BB ($2.76)
UTG ($4.88)
MP ($2.98)
Hero (CO) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, A

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, Button calls $0.17, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.41) J

, A

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, Button calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.81) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.58, Button calls $0.58

River: ($1.97) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.42, Button raises to $4.23 (All-In), Hero folds? you like?:dontknow:

"And please good players. Jump aboard".

OK

Going into this hand, the SPR is stratospheric, better than 10 : 1. With a TPTK, that means caution. The preflop raise looks good, and the 1/2 pot c-bet looks good. It doesn't give anything away, and could just as easily been a steal with a whiff.

Turn looks OK, the 4h is very likely a brick that completes only ( 2,5 ) (Would he call with that pre?) The river is another brick that completes nothing, and yet the vil springs to life with a raise AI. What would he do that with that you can beat? This looks like aces-over at the minimum. Vil could call pre with ( A,J-off ) and decide to slowplay it, given the very dry board. He could also have called with pocket threes, possibly jacks as well. I couldn't find a call here.

Given that this is deep stack play, you should have checked the river. If the vil still jams, you've saved yourself a few chippies. If he bets smaller, then it's a judgement call as to whether you call or fold, depending on the odds you're getting, how the vil plays the river.

 

[DunningKruger]

You replied to a hand posted 2 years ago almost to the day? 100.00 blinds isn't deep stack play by the way. Maybe without the decimal.

 

[Figaroo2]

this is correct right? villain is a 59/41/4 with a 42% 3bet over 17 hands(sample issmall but we all know where its headed)
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars
Button ($36.40)
SB ($49.05)
BB ($29.19)
UTG ($45.52)
MP ($33.88)
Hero (CO) ($39.65)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, A

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Button raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.90, Button calls $3.65
Flop: ($10.15) Q

, J

, 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9.69, Hero folds

I think the key here is his stats, like you said he's heading for maniac so he's raising half his hands pre flop and potting most flops regardless, especially those where you have shown weakness by checking.
Its a classic maniac bully flop bet and is exactly what you should expect from this type. You checked to let him bet as hes agg and you know it, and then when he does what you expect ....you fold?
The preflop action means nothing compared to if he was a tight player.
You are well ahead of his range here.
If hes 3 betting 42% lets say hes calling a 4 bet with half of that. Against a 20% range you are 85% fav pre and even on that flop a 65% fav on the flop.
GII against this type of player bro. You can fold all day if hes tight....

 

[vinylspiros]

"And please good players. Jump aboard".

OK

Going into this hand, the SPR is stratospheric, better than 10 : 1. With a TPTK, that means caution. The preflop raise looks good, and the 1/2 pot c-bet looks good. It doesn't give anything away, and could just as easily been a steal with a whiff.

Turn looks OK, the 4h is very likely a brick that completes only ( 2,5 ) (Would he call with that pre?) The river is another brick that completes nothing, and yet the vil springs to life with a raise AI. What would he do that with that you can beat? This looks like aces-over at the minimum. Vil could call pre with ( A,J-off ) and decide to slowplay it, given the very dry board. He could also have called with pocket threes, possibly jacks as well. I couldn't find a call here.

Given that this is deep stack play, you should have checked the river. If the vil still jams, you've saved yourself a few chippies. If he bets smaller, then it's a judgement call as to whether you call or fold, depending on the odds you're getting, how the vil plays the river.

LOL @ ok at the beginning of your post.

Welcome to the thread man ,thanks for posting. I like your analysis of the hand(that i actually did post a couple of years ago but i remember it like it was yesterday).

And i have to say that i agree with everything your saying here. So i guess you like the fold. ? You basically described how the hand went down except for the river ,where i dont like checking cause most of the time they have Ax here and you lose a ton of value. checking thing this relatively blank river is a value loser with our holdings and on this particular type of board IMO. when he raises its pretty obvious that we can let it go i guess.(which is exactly what i did)

 

[spookah123]

the only combo he has in his range that i beat is KK. QQ,JJ,TT and AK that are really likely to be in his range no matter how high his 3bet percentage is, all have me crushed. Lets not forget to mention 2 pair type hands.

This is a textbook fold in my opinion. You cant make money by making calls like this esp when he knows were mega strong and he just goes ahead and pots it. come on guys. seriously?

whats he potting with? sixes? You feel me. like i mean, our hand is not in too good shape the way the action wennt down preflop on this particular flop. Any other flop and id be cool with it. I really think there is a ton of AK in his range here.



I want to add that everyone knows,even the fish, that with all the preflop action on the flop a check from me in this spot looks like textbook trapping(nutted hands), so even if he didnt have it would he be betting that big? Thats the only messed up part .that by me checking here i dont know what the hell to do with my hand. After looking at it again i think that maybe b/f to jam is a better option?


Edit: thinking back to when i was in play, i think i intentionally checked for him to bet and maybe, jam it in my self ,but his sizing caused alarms so thats prolly why i folded.

You're never going to be trapping on this board. Honestly, the check makes it look like you have exactly AA and are shit scared of the board, but given the info on this player it doesn't seem like he's even capable of understanding opponent ranges. Against this particular player I will be getting it in and feeling pretty happy about it.

 

[vinylspiros]

Villain is the president of FISHES.

Have no stats on him. Hes a 1 star player. and he limps. I rest my case.

So heres what happened. thoughts?


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button ($12.84)
SB ($25.75)
BB ($10)
UTG ($8.62)
MP ($13.29)
Hero (CO) ($10.68)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7

, 8

1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, 3 folds, MP calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 8

, 7

, Q

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.78, MP calls $0.78

Turn: ($2.61) K

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.94, MP calls $1.94

River: ($6.49) 9

(2 players)
MP bets $6.20, Hero folds anyone NOT folding here? the problem i have here is maybe he pulled the old limp AK/AA to trap (fish trick) and is overplaying it but NAHHHHHHH right?

Total pot: $6.49 | Rake: $0.29

Results below:

Spoiler

MP didn't show

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Seems like a good fold, though I'm not following how we know he is a fish.

 

[vinylspiros]

Hes not a reg. I play there all day and have hands on most of the regs or even recreational players. Also anyone that puts in the slightest volume has at least silver. This guy was bronze. Meaning he barely ever plays any cash. Also he limped. Nobody ever limps in zoom. Except for the fish imo.

 

[vinylspiros]

Got some good news. put in 6 K hands of 10NL since thursday and am crushing literally. im up almost 18 buy ins and im playing super lag. Making good calls and stuff and feeling great about my game right now.

something interesting is money by position. Its all in the green, even the blinds. isnt that hard to achieve? figaro?

 

[hackmeplz]

You're probably playing well but just realize you're running insanely hot even if it's not reflected in the ev and try to remember this when you run bad.