A no-loss game.

MishkaZL · Sep 22, 2025

If you learn to play any game for $10-$20 and play in such a way that there is no loss, ... That is, there will be no profit, but the main thing is that there will be no loss. Is this realistic? ... I think it is. At least you can eat and drink for free. Or not?

Can such manipulation be attributed to the subtype of players who ‘count cards’ ... a new subtype, ‘players who don't count cards but eat and drink a lot’. Security might kick your ass.

najisami · Sep 22, 2025

MishkaZL said:
If you learn to play any game for $10-$20 and play in such a way that there is no loss, ... That is, there will be no profit, but the main thing is that there will be no loss. Is this realistic? ... I think it is. At least you can eat and drink for free. Or not?
Can such manipulation be attributed to the subtype of players who ‘count cards’ ... a new subtype, ‘players who don't count cards but eat and drink a lot’. Security might kick your ass.

You mean learning how to play with the goal of just breaking even?
Well, I guess is a +EV maneuver for someone who can be satisfied with the fun and the free food

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R.Melnyk77 · Sep 23, 2025

So, your goal is to eat at the expense of the casino... ?...
Hmm, where are your ambitions? That's not very serious

TeUnit · Sep 24, 2025

I do not think this is realistic under most situations.

Sunz of Beaches · Sep 24, 2025

No I don't think what the thred starter is talking about is realistic at all. Maybe if you have hunt down every promotion and every free comb then you can come near.

Reail · Sep 24, 2025

What a modest goal... Dream big!

sibkaz · Sep 25, 2025

It's better then to work in a pizzeria where you can eat for free...)))

Kenzie 96 · Sep 25, 2025

Well, given how precious ones time is, gonna have to vote ev negative on this one.

ExMoroccan · Jul 26, 2026

unfortunately math says no. even on lowest minimums playing perfect basic strategy, house edge will eat that $20 slowly over time. if you’re just doing it for free drinks though, $20 for 2-3 drinks and an hour of entertainment isn't terrible value, just don't expect to break even long term lol

R.Holynskyi · Jul 26, 2026

If you learn to play without losses, it can be a first step to something bigger. It's interesting, I think few people set such a goal for themselves. And of course it's about drinking and eating.

Lena M · Jul 27, 2026

No-loss gaming is not about casinos. Casinos are a business. They definitely don't need no-loss gaming.

nasty bent gorilla · Jul 28, 2026

Yes this maybe +EV if you are very wide and tall and seek to maintain energy balance, or maybe to add weight for a good reason.

GarotoMaroto · Jul 28, 2026

I did not understood anything
What do you mean?

john_entony · Jul 28, 2026

I love this idea!

Going to a casino for lunch.

But honestly, I don't think the casino will put you on a blacklist. If you manage to do this on a regular basis, let us know.

bol · Jul 28, 2026

I'm learning how to do this with Crazy Time right now so I just take the live results from https://www.pokerlistings.com/live-casinos/game-shows/crazy-time and try to figure out the algorithms. So far, the best I've managed in a month is to break even on small bets

Newzooozooo · Jul 29, 2026

bol said:
I'm learning how to do this with Crazy Time right now so I just take the live results from https://www.pokerlistings.com/live-casinos/game-shows/crazy-time and try to figure out the algorithms. So far, the best I've managed in a month is to break even on small bets

Be careful. A friend of mine spent several thousand dollars on this game. It's better to focus your attention on something more promising.

black and · Jul 29, 2026

If we are to seriously discuss a break-even game, in my opinion, the only one we can talk about is poker. Everything else is a games where in the long run you will have to pay out of your own pocket.

RENEY444 · Aug 2, 2026

Poker is pretty tough at the casinos I frequent in the San Diego , Ca area . The small buyin games ( $3/6 limit holdem, $4/8 omaha 8 and $1/3 no limit holdem get raked quite hard . As wild as many of the regulars are , most of the money goes down the slot unnoticed .They take 4, 5 , 6 bucks in pots less that 50 bucks . Good luck getting back the share that supposedly goes to 'player promotions' . And if you step up to $2/5 or $5/10 no limit you'd better be a pretty sharp card player .

Hospedar · Aug 11, 2026

People usually think about getting rich by hitting the jackpot while gambling, but you... you are a thousend miles ahead them

Would be great to be break even in the casino to start eating and drinking for free there, but, unfortunately, I don't think this is viable, since the casino makes the rules with the intention to favor themselves, so you will always be loosing more and more and, even if you manage to hit the jackpot, they still would be profitable, not only because of the other players losses, but because of your past and future losses while playing with them.

A no-loss game.

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