***February Fever Poker Chat***

coz there actually isn't a lot of variance in it, people would be surprised. There is a lot less variance in HUNL than omaha, since you are forced to put you money in bad in tough spots in holdem, but in omaha you can get it in good a huge percentage of the time.

I'm just running ungodly bad

But it's still OMAHAha H/L right belgo ?

I don't know wtf happened but PS told me switch won so SHIP IT LDO.

PokerStars Game #24788234670: Tournament #139820553, $33.00+$1.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Match Round I, Level I (5/10) - 2009/02/10 10:40:26 ET
Table '139820553 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Gliaglia (1525 in chips)
Seat 2: switch0723 (1475 in chips)
switch0723: posts small blind 5
Gliaglia: posts big blind 10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
switch0723: raises 20 to 30
Gliaglia: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [8d 5d 4h]
Gliaglia: checks
switch0723: bets 50
Gliaglia: calls 50
*** TURN *** [8d 5d 4h] 7♠
Gliaglia: bets 160
switch0723: raises 480 to 640
Gliaglia: raises 805 to 1445 and is all-in
switch0723: calls 755 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (50) returned to Gliaglia
*** RIVER *** [8d 5d 4h 7s] J♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gliaglia: shows [5c 2h 4s 6c] (HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,5,4,2)
switch0723: shows [4c Ac 9s 6s] (HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 7,6,5,4,A)
switch0723 collected 1475 from pot
switch0723 collected 1475 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2950 | Rake 0
Board [8d 5d 4h 7s Jh]
Seat 1: Gliaglia (big blind) showed [5c 2h 4s 6c] and lost with HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,5,4,2
Seat 2: switch0723 (button) (small blind) showed [4c Ac 9s 6s] and won (2950) with HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 7,6,5,4,A

Own souls and never look back switch !
Dude got a diamond star

Beautiful little afternoon nl$50 heater on i-donker. Feels like its been months since I had a session like this.

eNTy said:

But it's still OMAHAha H/L right belgo ?

I don't know wtf happened but PS told me switch won so SHIP IT LDO.

PokerStars Game #24788234670: Tournament #139820553, $33.00+$1.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Match Round I, Level I (5/10) - 2009/02/10 10:40:26 ET
Table '139820553 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Gliaglia (1525 in chips)
Seat 2: switch0723 (1475 in chips)
switch0723: posts small blind 5
Gliaglia: posts big blind 10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
switch0723: raises 20 to 30
Gliaglia: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [8d 5d 4h]
Gliaglia: checks
switch0723: bets 50
Gliaglia: calls 50
*** TURN *** [8d 5d 4h] 7♠
Gliaglia: bets 160
switch0723: raises 480 to 640
Gliaglia: raises 805 to 1445 and is all-in
switch0723: calls 755 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (50) returned to Gliaglia
*** RIVER *** [8d 5d 4h 7s] J♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gliaglia: shows [5c 2h 4s 6c] (HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,5,4,2)
switch0723: shows [4c Ac 9s 6s] (HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 7,6,5,4,A)
switch0723 collected 1475 from pot
switch0723 collected 1475 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2950 | Rake 0
Board [8d 5d 4h 7s Jh]
Seat 1: Gliaglia (big blind) showed [5c 2h 4s 6c] and lost with HI: a straight, Four to Eight; LO: 7,6,5,4,2
Seat 2: switch0723 (button) (small blind) showed [4c Ac 9s 6s] and won (2950) with HI: a straight, Five to Nine; LO: 7,6,5,4,A

Own souls and never look back switch !
Dude got a diamond star

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easily the proudest HH of my life, getting GliaGlia all in drawing dead to a few outs to chop, now to never play him ever again and die 1-0 up agaisnt him

ffs, there i was thinking that hand would be the turn around of my swong, but winning 65-35's is still fking SOLID

switch0723 said:

easily the proudest HH of my life, getting GliaGlia all in drawing dead to a few outs to chop, now to never play him ever again and die 1-0 up agaisnt him

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Then why are u 2tabling him ? LIAR ITT!

Belgo, how's 200NL going for you? I seem to do ok at 200NL FR but 6max still kicks my ass. I see far, far, far less donks at 200NL than at 100NL. Do you see the same? I almost think its more profitable to mix 200NL and 100NL and select only the juiciest 200NL tables.

BelgoSuisse said:

btw, how's the 400nl shot going overall. Turning a profit so far?

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Up like 350 after 3k hands. Running 1k above ev but have had 3 set under sets for stacks and no set over sets. Overall just a much more aggro game. Even the fish are the ones who tend on the aggro side and not the passive side. Instead of the usual 40/3 fish I loved at 200nl I'm seeing a lot more 85/75 types. Note by a lot more I don't mean there are a ton of 85/75's, but that most of the fish that I do find are closer to that range than the former. It's requiring a lot more thinking from me though so I've scaled down to ~9 tables

eNTy said:

Then why are u 2tabling him ? LIAR ITT!

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COZ IM NOW 2-0 AGIANST HIM

PokerStars Game #24789438518: Tournament #139826840, $33.00+$1.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (25/50) - 2009/02/10 16:25:50 GMT [2009/02/10 11:25:50 ET]
Table '139826840 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: switch0723 (2680 in chips)
Seat 2: Gliaglia (320 in chips)
switch0723: posts small blind 25
Gliaglia: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to switch0723 [Ac Jd Ks 9s]
switch0723: raises 100 to 150
Gliaglia: raises 170 to 320 and is all-in
switch0723: calls 170
*** FLOP *** [Ts 7d 4s]
*** TURN *** [Ts 7d 4s] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 7d 4s Qd] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gliaglia: shows [5s As 2d 3c] (HI: a pair of Fours)
switch0723: shows [Ac Jd Ks 9s] (HI: a pair of Fours - Ace+King kicker)
switch0723 collected 640 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 640 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 7d 4s Qd 4c]
Seat 1: switch0723 (button) (small blind) showed [Ac Jd Ks 9s] and won (640) with HI: a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Gliaglia (big blind) showed [5s As 2d 3c] and lost with HI: a pair of Fours

sick river fade

holy shit enty we are geniuses, the plan of he is 5 tabling because he his tilting worked a treat

3-0 baby

PokerStars Game #24789595473: Tournament #139826887, $33.00+$1.50 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Match Round I, Level V (40/80) - 2009/02/10 16:31:39 GMT [2009/02/10 11:31:39 ET]
Table '139826887 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: switch0723 (2200 in chips)
Seat 2: Gliaglia (800 in chips)
switch0723: posts small blind 40
Gliaglia: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to switch0723 [8s As Jh 4s]
switch0723: raises 160 to 240
Gliaglia: raises 480 to 720
switch0723: raises 480 to 1200
Gliaglia: calls 80 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (400) returned to switch0723
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9s 2s]
*** TURN *** [Jc 9s 2s] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 9s 2s 8c] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gliaglia: shows [5d 3s Ts Qd] (HI: a flush, Queen high)
switch0723: shows [8s As Jh 4s] (HI: a flush, Ace high)
switch0723 collected 1600 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1600 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 9s 2s 8c Qs]
Seat 1: switch0723 (button) (small blind) showed [8s As Jh 4s] and won (1600) with HI: a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: Gliaglia (big blind) showed [5d 3s Ts Qd] and lost with HI: a flush, Queen high


still massively down for the day, but beating the shit out of argueably the best player at the game is rewarding

bw07507 said:

Belgo, how's 200NL going for you? I seem to do ok at 200NL FR but 6max still kicks my ass. I see far, far, far less donks at 200NL than at 100NL. Do you see the same? I almost think its more profitable to mix 200NL and 100NL and select only the juiciest 200NL tables.

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5BB/100 so far, despite hitting sets less than 3% and running below all-in EV. All of it in NSD. But sample size is still low obviously.

I've decided to mix 100nl and 200nl (FR both) during weekdays and play 200nl only on weekends. Strong table selection until i feel i have an edge over the regs.

I haven't noticed a huge difference in the play levels so far. The fishes are just as bad, imo. Not sure there are a lot less of them either. I've sat at tables where 4 or 5 players had stacks between 60 and 80bb.

The regs are somewhat better. 100nl FR regs tend to be a bit too nitty with very low 3bet% which is super exploitable. At 200nl i do get 3bet light as soon as i start LAGing it a bit too much but that's ok. Only had to leave a table once because i didn't know how to handle the reg on my left.

Also, i do start with an extra edge over the regs as i've datamined for a while so i have good stats on them while i should be an unknown in their databases. Won't last of course.

This is all on FT, which zach will tell you is super soft. Haven't tried 200nl on stars yet.

zachvac said:

Instead of the usual 40/3 fish I loved at 200nl I'm seeing a lot more 85/75 types.

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Wow, that must be fun/scary.

nice graphs guys lol i'm 3k down this month lawllll

and i cant help it but confuzzles me is cracking me op ahahhaha

BelgoSuisse said:

This is all on FT, which zach will tell you is super soft. Haven't tried 200nl on stars yet.

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fwiw I don't think FTP is super-soft, I just run super-hot there .

I think what I heard before is still true, that there are a few more fish at FTP but that the regs are also better (because at Stars a lot of the regs are breakeven fpp nits).

5BB/100 so far, despite hitting sets less than 3% and running below all-in EV. All of it in NSD. But sample size is still low obviously.

I've decided to mix 100nl and 200nl (FR both) during weekdays and play 200nl only on weekends. Strong table selection until i feel i have an edge over the regs.

I haven't noticed a huge difference in the play levels so far. The fishes are just as bad, imo. Not sure there are a lot less of them either. I've sat at tables where 4 or 5 players had stacks between 60 and 80bb.

The regs are somewhat better. 100nl FR regs tend to be a bit too nitty with very low 3bet% which is super exploitable. At 200nl i do get 3bet light as soon as i start LAGing it a bit too much but that's ok. Only had to leave a table once because i didn't know how to handle the reg on my left.

Also, i do start with an extra edge over the regs as i've datamined for a while so i have good stats on them while i should be an unknown in their databases. Won't last of course.

This is all on FT, which zach will tell you is super soft. Haven't tried 200nl on stars yet.

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Over 25k hands at 200NL FR I am at 1.8 BB/100 which is a far cry away from my 4.66 BB/100 at 100NL FR. I know sample size is small, and I think I've run kind of bad at 200NL, but it just seems that if its not a weekend or like a thursday or friday night, the 200NL FR tables are just reg infested at Stars. The 100NL regs on stars are also super exploitable. Probably, if I played longer at 200NL I would find weaknesses in a lot of the regs up there, but for now, it seems they have a much more solid game than the 100NL regs do.

For now, as a college student I think its smarter for me to just stay at 100NL where variance is lower and I know I can make atleast ~$75/hour (Probably more) including bonuses while 18 or 20 tabling.

PokerStars Game #24793671410: Tournament #139856368, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/02/10 13:46:43 ET
Table '139856368 4' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: lemafieudf (1180 in chips)
Seat 2: Dilenja (3440 in chips)
Seat 3: Rechtse back (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: michi1510 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Berrrta (2130 in chips)
Seat 6: Zocker076 (1130 in chips)
Seat 7: grafvapeko (1510 in chips)
Seat 8: Mezmy (1470 in chips)
Seat 9: Entiteit (1470 in chips)
Dilenja: posts small blind 10
Rechtse back: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Entiteit [Kc Ks]
michi1510: folds
Berrrta: raises 120 to 140
Zocker076: calls 140
grafvapeko: folds
Mezmy: folds
Entiteit: raises 1330 to 1470 and is all-in
lemafieudf: folds
Dilenja: folds
Rechtse back: folds
Berrrta: calls 1330
Zocker076: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 6d Jd]
Entiteit said, "ok"
Entiteit said, "."
*** TURN *** [5d 6d Jd] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [5d 6d Jd 9c] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Berrrta: shows [Jc Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Entiteit: shows [Kc Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
Entiteit said, "sick"
Entiteit collected 3110 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3110 | Rake 0
Board [5d 6d Jd 9c Kh]
Seat 1: lemafieudf (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Dilenja (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Rechtse back (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: michi1510 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Berrrta showed [Jc Js] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: Zocker076 folded before Flop
Seat 7: grafvapeko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Mezmy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Entiteit showed [Kc Ks] and won (3110) with three of a kind, Kings

Congrats on the win Enty,

Congrats on pwning the man Switch.

Congrats on the upswong TB

Congrats to anyone else who done some stuff

Since I'm playing more on FTP and not as many hands in general, and it's taking more out of me, am I crazy to start playing turbo sngs (probably the single-table 27's, 38's, and 60's) on Stars just to make some fpps plus probably some profit mindlessly folding or shoving for a while?

coaching from Jared at 4 today!

Reviewing a couple videos he suggested that I watched before but are only clicking now. If this goes as well as it feels like it will, Ill be making some hopefully awesome posts about it in the near future as it will have changed my mental game tremendously.

eNTy said:

**** this game.
When will this end.
I was 600/1200 left in the 15k guaranteed 5500 started.
Put my stack in with bottom pair and open ender on flop vs a set, thought I had enough outs because I put him on set 90% certain.
I didn't and lost a big part of my stack.
Then next hand same guy hit his 20% shot.

Poker Stars, $5.50 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) NL Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: 63.4 bb
Hero (UTG+1): 8.2 bb
BTN: 29 bb
SB: 72.4 bb
BB: 11.6 bb
MP1: 21 bb
MP2: 18.4 bb
MP3: 47.5 bb
CO: 8.4 bb

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with K

A

2 folds, MP3 raises to 4 bb, 2 folds, Hero raises to 8.1 bb and is all-in, 3 folds, MP3 calls 4.1 bb

Flop: (18.8 bb) 4

A

2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (18.8 bb) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (18.8 bb) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: 18.8 bb pot
MP3 showed Q

A

(a flush, Ace high) and won 18.8 bb (10.6 bb net)
Hero showed K

A

(a pair of Aces) and lost (-8.2 bb net)

I am so sick of losing EVERYTHING.

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Enty.....you and I need to play heads up....that way at least one of us will have a winning session.

eagle jim said:

Enty.....you and I need to play heads up....that way at least one of us will have a winning session.

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Lol good reply

zachvac said:

Since I'm playing more on FTP and not as many hands in general, and it's taking more out of me, am I crazy to start playing turbo sngs (probably the single-table 27's, 38's, and 60's) on Stars just to make some fpps plus probably some profit mindlessly folding or shoving for a while?

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if you take out the "mindlessly" and instead 5% of your brain it should be ok, imo. Good change of routine. Just don't let the variance tilt you.

bw07507 said:

Belgo, how's 200NL going for you?

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Graph! arty:

NSD FTW! If only i could hit more than 2.2% of sets and didn't run $140 below all-in EV, i could start making serious money, imo...

BelgoSuisse said:

if you take out the "mindlessly" and instead 5% of your brain it should be ok, imo. Good change of routine. Just don't let the variance tilt you.

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yeah...

Thinking about it actually I think I'm gonna lay off the 60's and just do 27's and 38's. From the 60's I've played I'm almost positive I'm +ev in them but if spacegravy can have a 6k downswing I'm pretty sure I could as well. And the point of this is to play enough to make money/fpps without wanting to kill myself .

Weeeeeeeeee. Thought I was getting paid here..anyway to extract more?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP3: $8.20 (82 bb)
CO: $2.15 (21.5 bb)
BTN: $2.10 (21 bb)
Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $11.70 (117 bb)
UTG+1: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $11 (110 bb)
MP2: $2.60 (26 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with K K
UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.10) 5 K K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP1 raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.10) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

River: ($5.10) J (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP1 folds