*** January's Juxtaposed Pokahz Chat ***

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QQ Vs AK 0-2 :(

AIPF too :(
 
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Rigged imo
 
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switch0723 said:
also zach, answer the damn question imo

What question?
 
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how many hours/day do you need to be playing for elite?
 
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like 6 or so 20-tabling. Little less 24 and little more doing less or with frequent breaks (so more time is spent 0 -> 20 and 20 -> 0 than steady 20). Instead though I'm trying to do some 10-hour days and some days off where I play like none or maybe 2-3 hours. Unfortunately I'm taking too many of the 0 or 2-3 days (some not my fault entirely though due to power outages, internet problems, and lag from both Stars and my computer).
 
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Are you living in MD or OH Zach?
 
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20 mins to the end of my shift, yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!!!!
 
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Nice little heater in the last 100 hands :)


Weee
 
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BRAG: bankroll milestone as I cracked the $5k mark for the first time. :party: . If I can keep the volume and win-rate at 100nl so far, I should be able to start taking stabs at 200nl next month.

Now, engage doomswitch ! :eek:
 
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BelgoSuisse said:
BRAG: bankroll milestone as I cracked the $5k mark for the first time. :party: . If I can keep the volume and win-rate at 100nl so far, I should be able to start taking stabs at 200nl next month.

Now, engage doomswitch ! :eek:

Congrats. :)



Sorry about the soon-to-be doomswitch. :(
 
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omg this guy's threads are so hilarious. He's got like 5-6 so if you feel like it check them out. Here's the best one imo: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/mississippi-bluff-31189/

Hello everyone,

It's been a great October at the tables for both me and my students. I think we have set up just enough metagame in the first week that by the end of the month we should be out of the red and prospering in the deep pools of green that we all strive for.

Tonight, I want to share a lesson I am currently teaching my students. Poker at the elite level is about 75% bluffing, 25% odds. If you maintain this balance, you will be playing the nosebleed stakes before you know it. I tell my students all the time, balance is like a gymnast that tries out for the baseball team, it's a different field but you're still a gymnast. And now on to the hand.

Poker Stars, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $777.70
SB: $599.00
BB: $927.80
UTG: $602.25
Hero (MP): $543.15
CO: $540.80

As you can see, I am playing 3/6 NL. This level is widely considered the wasteland of poker. It's the stakes that the unimaginative grinders play and is filled with players not good enough to play 5/10. Sometimes when I am struggling to outplay people at the more challenging 1/2 and 2/4 levels, I just go play 3/6 and catch the money that falls from the sky.

Pre-Flop: 2
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6
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dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG raises to $21, Hero calls $21, 4 folds.

This is a pretty standard play for me. I make the isolation call with the suited connector. If I'm unsuited, it goes without saying that this is a fold. I like to float preflop in this spot, UTG vs MP, because you can really narrow the range of the PFR and put them on hands easily. And floating with little cards is smart because they always put you on big cards.

Flop: ($51) 3
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Q
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K
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(2 Players)
UTG bets $45, Hero calls $45.

That's not a good flop for our villain. After he bets out huge, which is a clear sign of weakness, I can't really put him on anything that connects hard with that flop. I put him on something like JT and in my eyes this is a perfect scenario for something I like to call the Mississippi Bluff.

The Mississippi Bluff is a complex play for advanced players. Only a few of us--like fgators, Nielsio and myself--read hands well enough to pull it off with a high success rate but it is extremely profitable. The bluff itself is simple. You call any flop and turn bets, push any river. Recognizing the spots to use the bluff...well, that's an art form.


Turn: ($141) 3
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(2 Players)
UTG bets $120, Hero calls $120.

This turn is a complete brick. The chances of him raising UTG and holding a 3 are negligible. But, that's the perfect card for me. I should be able to fold out most of his range by repping a set of 3's on the end.

River: ($381) 6
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(2 Players)
UTG bets $350, Hero raises to $357.15 (all-in)...

Well, Villain has really put our complex bluff to the test with an awkward river bet size. To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure how much fold equity I really have here. However, I do have some showdown equity vs his range.

The mark of a strong player is to stick to the plan no matter what: Successful poker is all about persistence in the face of adversity. So, with that in mind, I aggressively make the push...


...after which, villain types a bunch of silly random letters in the chat box. He actually tanks for quite a long time. Now I'm thinking he might have a strong hand like AK and can't see how he is good here. After a few more expletives typed into the chat box, he does make the call, shows J
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T
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and my hand is good.

The Mississippi bluff is not for the quaint of heart. You need to close your eyes and follow it through to the end no matter the action. It is bold. It is aggressive. It is poker the way elite players play poker.

That's all for now and we shall see you at the tables.

joy
 
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lol and I always thought I was just being a spewtard when I did that, turns out I was just running a Mississippi bluff!!!

Hilarious!
 
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Downloading now Clean :) (and rated 5 stars, just because)
 
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ChuckTs said:
stox members: enjoy watching me spew!

http://www.stoxpoker.com/viewvideos.php

Very nice vid. The last hand is wow. I do wonder what the bottom of his calling range would be. That's really what matters to know if this was spew or not. But I think I like it.
 
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BelgoSuisse said:
BRAG: bankroll milestone as I cracked the $5k mark for the first time. :party: .
Well played, here's to $10K! :driver:

ChuckTs said:
stox members: enjoy watching me spew!

http://www.stoxpoker.com/viewvideos.php

Me and Stosh review the tougher hands I played from end of Dec/beginning of Jan. Video #781
Taking a look right now..
 
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Lol is that hand/ guy from 2+2 serious..or some sort of joke?
 
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Neteller is soooo unhelpful !

They require a utility bill with me name and address on to let me upgrade to an extended account. Since I am 18 and live with my parents obviously all the bills are made out to my father. So I scanned one of his landline phone bills with his name and our address on and gave it to them.

They said they need one with a name matching to my account name. So I emailed support to say that I live with my parents so I dont have bills with my name on etc.

Then after a week+ they reply with a direct copy of the text on their site saying what I need to supply, which I already knew.

Bastards.. :(
 
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eNTy said:
Neteller is soooo unhelpful !

They require a utility bill with me name and address on to let me upgrade to an extended account. Since I am 18 and live with my parents obviously all the bills are made out to my father. So I scanned one of his landline phone bills with his name and our address on and gave it to them.

They said they need one with a name matching to my account name. So I emailed support to say that I live with my parents so I dont have bills with my name on etc.

Then after a week+ they reply with a direct copy of the text on their site saying what I need to supply, which I already knew.

Bastards.. :(

Scan and photochop imo.
 
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WVHillbilly said:
Scan and photochop imo.


I have no photochop skills. I can only do a moderately successful photokick..
 
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Yeah that guy from 2+2 is a joke, at least, I am 90% sure it's a joke.

To Belgo, congrats man, nice BR milestone.

I'll be watching the ChuckTs stox video later today ... I am sure it'll be a good watch!

My update is nothing interesting. Been breakeven over 2000 hands which I am actually happy about. It's one of those "take the damn coolers" but "playing really well and making great reads" small stretches. I'm looking like a shoe-in for gold but no chance at platinum this month. I really want to try for a 40k hand month but i don't know where the time could come from.
 
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icemonkey9 said:
Yeah that guy from 2+2 is a joke, at least, I am 90% sure it's a joke.

If you are not 100% this is a joke I pity the fool who is you.

At first I was like hmmmm, but then I LOLd.
 
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As much as I hate donkaments, I wanna final table once in my life. I don't usually make it past the first break, so that's quite a goal I've got there.

Playing the $320 100K guaranteed. There's a gold star to my left and one to my right. Two other players just limp-called from late position. Yet another player just stacked off 69 on K65. How hard can it be, I ask? We will see.
 
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Yup, gonna be real hard. Half my stack is gone after I barreled the nut flush draw and didn't hit. If I had to guess I'd say I'll last another 10 minutes, AK < QQ last hand imo.
 
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