*** January's Juxtaposed Pokahz Chat ***

I think I'm having a +5 BI day...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I smell so bad! Seriously I hum!

Poker Stars $11.00+$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 10304
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN/SB: t1320 M = 44
Hero (BB): t1680 M = 56

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with Q :spade: A :heart: J :spade: J :heart:
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) K :club: Q :club: A :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t120) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t120, Hero calls t120

River: (t360) A :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t360, Hero calls t360

Final Pot: t1080
BTN/SB shows A :diamond: 8 :diamond: K :heart: 2 :heart: (HI: a full house, Aces full of Kings)
Hero shows Q :spade: A :heart: J :spade: J :heart: (HI: a full house, Aces full of Queens)
BTN/SB wins t1080

It hurts to be this good, if i was any better and could have folded, i might have died

I dont know what the hell is going on at 10NL right now but for the last hour I must have had 4 buy Ins. They are nuts, worse than usual.

FREE money at 10NL, WTF is this guy doing below??

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $15.55 (155.5 bb)
MP1: $5.45 (54.5 bb)
MP2: $1.25 (12.5 bb)
MP3: $6.35 (63.5 bb)
CO: $8.85 (88.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (100 bb)
SB: $3.10 (31 bb)
BB: $9.35 (93.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with A:club: A:heart:
3 folds, MP3 raises to $1.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $4.90, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, MP3 calls $1.45 and is all-in

Flop: ($12.85) 4:club: Q:club: 9:club: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($12.85) 5:diamond: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($12.85) 9:heart: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:[spoil] $12.85 pot ($0.60 rake)
MP3 showed 3:diamond: T:spade: (a pair of Nines) and lost (-$6.35 net)
Hero showed A:club: A:heart: (two pairs, Aces and Nines) and won $12.25 ($5.90 net)
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Making the read of his life obviously.

switch0723 said:

Poker Stars $11.00+$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 10304
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN/SB: t1320 M = 44
Hero (BB): t1680 M = 56

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with Q ♠ A ♥ J ♠ J ♥
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) K ♣ Q ♣ A ♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t120) 5 ♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t120, Hero calls t120

River: (t360) A ♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t360, Hero calls t360

Final Pot: t1080
BTN/SB shows A ♦ 8 ♦ K ♥ 2 ♥ (HI: a full house, Aces full of Kings)
Hero shows Q ♠ A ♥ J ♠ J ♥ (HI: a full house, Aces full of Queens)
BTN/SB wins t1080

It hurts to be this good, if i was any better and could have folded, i might have died

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you are a sexy sexy man

It is the middle of the month and I am almost exactly even!!!! started down early, but have climbed back to the positives...

Edit my earlier post...ended the day +7 BI's. I'd like to run like this for the rest of the month, thanks.

:motz: I suck....

***** Hand History for Game 24010899336 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, January 17, 10:03:16 ET 2009
Table Alphard III (real money)
Seat 9 is the button
Seat 1: parksy55 ( $6.75 USD )
Seat 2: BeatUbigTime ( $40.60 USD )
Seat 3: muck__you123 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: enright3060 ( $36.05 USD )
Seat 6: Owly ( $28.40 USD )
Seat 7: UTgambler56 ( $18.40 USD )
Seat 9: yhaile ( $24.85 USD )
parksy55 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
BeatUbigTime posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to muck__you123 [ Kd Kh ]
muck__you123 raises [$1.00 USD]
enright3060 folds
Owly folds
UTgambler56 folds
yhaile calls [$1.00 USD]
parksy55 calls [$0.90 USD]
BeatUbigTime calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 7c, 9d ]
parksy55 checks
BeatUbigTime checks
muck__you123 bets [$2.75 USD]
yhaile calls [$2.75 USD]
parksy55 raises [$5.50 USD]
BeatUbigTime calls [$5.50 USD]
muck__you123 folds
yhaile calls [$2.75 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
parksy55 bets [$0.25 USD]!!!
BeatUbigTime calls [$0.25 USD]
yhaile calls [$0.25 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
BeatUbigTime checks
yhaile checks
parksy55 shows [Qs, 8d ]
BeatUbigTime shows [4d, 5d ]
yhaile shows [7s, Ts ]
yhaile wins $22.85 USD from main pot

Ahhh my 10nl seedlings are beginning to sprout. Good to see you guys grinding it, and soon you too will enjoy the warm and fishy 100nl waters.

lol I can't win. Took the day off from the grind and watched some videos (Chuck's was great for all Stox members). Then figured may as well play a game I know I can crush and can't lose too much in, 50nl HU. 5 buy-ins later and I know otherwise. Even felt like I was playing really well. I was playing great in all the small pots but the big pots I was just always out-flopped. This crazy monkey hit 2-pair/set on me like 4 times (he was doing such random shit, overshoving my flop cbets, which I finally called one with bottom 2 and he flopped a set of course ). Then the other guy was a super-nit that I was running over and then I shove 2 combo draws into him and he has overpair once and TPTK the other and of course I lose both coin flips, one of these like 200 BBs deep (he had overpair, honestly he was such a nit he may have folded TP in that spot). But w/e at least it's only like one 200nl buy-in. I'll be back at it tomorrow, still debating on whether or not to play the major mtts. On the one hand they're soft and I'm due. On the other hand tourneys suck.

Also debating on whether to just give up on sne and table select across both FTP and Stars. I know I can do sne but just thinking about it I'm pretty sure the winnings I get from better table selection, not 24-tabling, not playing when I really am not on my game, and just playing in general better poker will be more than the benefits of sne. I just need to make sure I set an alternative goal for hands and don't slack on that. I'm still playing full-time and still need to put in hands to make an income. But on the other hand sne is pretty sweet. Definitely not for sure giving up yet, and regardless will be grinding a marathon week when I do finally get the new laptop.

zachvac said:

Also debating on whether to just give up on sne and table select across both FTP and Stars. I know I can do sne but just thinking about it I'm pretty sure the winnings I get from better table selection, not 24-tabling, not playing when I really am not on my game, and just playing in general better poker will be more than the benefits of sne

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How much is sne worth in BB/100 at the stakes you currently play?

Had a nice little session tonight.

Brag: Up +3BI's on the day
Beat: hard drive crashed and I lost all of my poker hand histories

starting to take shots at 25nl as well, with decent results. Hopefully my february I will be playing a little more there

BelgoSuisse said:

How much is sne worth in BB/100 at the stakes you currently play?

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About 1, but that's total. If I play normal without sne I probably get about half benefits (plus they're all in cash, rather than part of it being entry fees although I'll probably end up doing the PCA anyway). So like 0.5 extra for sne and not only is it less if/when I finally do permanently move up but a higher winrate will get me to move up faster so it's even less than that. All in all basically it looks as if the only way I'll do sne is basically if I can get close with no extra trouble. If I can grind sngs or w/e during double vpp week and get to the point where even a 150k vpp month in December gets me sne, I'd probably do it. But a normal rate would probably put me closer to 600k vpps and since that's the case I'll probably instead play some at FTP meaning that I won't have any chance in the world of coming close to sne at Stars. Anyway bottom line is that higher winrate also = less downswings, less stress, easier to put in hands. On the other hand I'm going to make absolutely sure it's worth it to go to FTP because their support is just horrid and I'm still kinda nervous putting my money over there after the cases where they just took the rolls without explanation. I know it's rare, but I want to be as sure I can trust them if I plan to have 5 figures over there, and right now I just don't.

idk we'll see how it goes, but basically short answer to your question is that it's a small part of a normal winrate and sacrificing that winrate for the sne bonus winrate is silly. If I can 24-table 6 hours a day and still win at 2-3 PTBB/100 and get better and move up then I'll go for sne. If I can't I won't, simple as that. I'm not gonna be a wojtasxxPolak.

zachvac said:

About 1, but that's total.

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100nl or 200nl?

Anyway, it's not huge, so obviously if striving for that affects your win rate, it's not really such a good deal.

FWIW, at FTP I got about 1 BB/100 in RB at 50nl and 0.7 BB/100 at 100nl (both in ptbb, at full ring), a little more counting the FTP points and the ironman stuff.

Why didnt any one tell me sooner to stop messing with SNG and move to cash games? The fish keep on reloading .

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with T T
MP folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, SB folds, BB calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.55) J 8 T (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.20, BB raises to $2.40, CO calls $2.40, Hero raises to $11.25 and is all-in, BB calls $6.90 and is all-in, CO calls $1.90 and is all-in

Turn: ($24.45) 4 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($24.45) 9 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $24.45 pot ($1.20 rake)
BB showed J K (a pair of Jacks) and lost (-$9.80 net)
Hero showed T T (three of a kind, Tens) and won $23.25 ($13.45 net)
CO mucked A K (high card Ace) and lost (-$4.80 net)

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BTN): $9.10 (91 bb)
SB: $10.20 (102 bb)
BB: $20.50 (205 bb)
UTG: $3.05 (30.5 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $2.25 (22.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K:spade: A:spade:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: ($0.90) A:heart: K:club: K:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.90) 7:spade: (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($1.90) 7:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $2.90, SB raises to $9.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.30 and is all-in

Results:[spoil] $18.30 pot ($0.90 rake)
SB showed 7:heart: 7:club: (four of a kind, Sevens) and won $17.40 ($8.30 net)
Hero mucked K:spade: A:spade: (a full house, Kings full of Aces) and lost (-$9.10 net)
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I LOLed.

btw, 99.899% equity on flop.

kleitches said:

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BTN): $9.10 (91 bb)
SB: $10.20 (102 bb)
BB: $20.50 (205 bb)
UTG: $3.05 (30.5 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $2.25 (22.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K♠ A♠
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: ($0.90) A♥ K♣ K♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.90) 7♠ (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($1.90) 7♦ (2 players)
SB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $2.90, SB raises to $9.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.30 and is all-in

Results:[spoil] $18.30 pot ($0.90 rake)
SB showed 7♥ 7♣ (four of a kind, Sevens) and won $17.40 ($8.30 net)
Hero mucked K♠ A♠ (a full house, Kings full of Aces) and lost (-$9.10 net)
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I LOLed.

btw, 99.899% equity on flop.

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This is seriously one of the worst beats if seen.
Good u could laugh at this,its probably even to bad of a beat to go on tilt.

Edit: Please enable auto reload so villain gets a full stack

sindri_93 said:

This is seriously one of the worst beats if seen.
Good u could laugh at this,its probably even to bad of a beat to go on tilt.

Edit: Please enable auto reload so villain gets a full stack

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This is what I get for slow-playing , lesson learned imo.

Also, I have auto top-up turned on, but it doesn't always work for some weird reason. Like I will literally check the option a billion times and make sure it's enabled and it still won't reload me ffs!

icemonkey9 said:

Ahhh my 10nl seedlings are beginning to sprout. Good to see you guys grinding it, and soon you too will enjoy the warm and fishy 100nl waters.

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Hahah we are indeed Ice. Hope to be at 100NL well umm ... maybe in the future lol

Ahhh my 10nl seedlings are beginning to sprout. Good to see you guys grinding it, and soon you too will enjoy the warm and fishy 100nl waters.

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Funny you mention this...I had a dream last night that I was 4-tabling 100NL with a 4BI roll. I think I remember I lost like half of it and woke up. Is it sad that this was like a nightmare to me?

icemonkey9 said:

Ahhh my 10nl seedlings are beginning to sprout. Good to see you guys grinding it, and soon you too will enjoy the warm and fishy 100nl waters.

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Im pretty sure the cold winter is gonna kill me long before i grow up to 100NL

My seedling has died

I accidently play 2/4 (and for the first time no less) and make a hero call on the river. It took me a little while to understand what had happened, because when he minraised preflop, the chips didn't look right, but the bet size - $8 - did. Very confusing.

***** Hand History for Game 7717101226 *****
$400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, January 18, 09:04:05 ET 2009
Table Jackpot #1304640 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: AAundPiPi ( $400 USD )
Seat 6: F_Pau ( $400 USD )
Seat 3: MikeKB878 ( $406 USD )
Seat 1: badbadpoker ( $778.40 USD )
Seat 4: foldophobia ( $1,037.75 USD )
Seat 2: monsterkolbn ( $848.96 USD )
AAundPiPi posts small blind [$2 USD].
F_Pau posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to F_Pau [ Ah Kh ]
badbadpoker raises [$8 USD]
monsterkolbn folds
MikeKB878 calls [$8 USD]
foldophobia folds
AAundPiPi folds
F_Pau raises [$38 USD]
badbadpoker calls [$34 USD]
MikeKB878 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 6d, 3h ]
F_Pau checks
badbadpoker checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
F_Pau bets [$50 USD]
badbadpoker calls [$50 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
F_Pau checks
badbadpoker bets [$48 USD]
F_Pau calls [$48 USD]
badbadpoker shows [ 7c, Ac ]high card Ace.
F_Pau shows [ Ah, Kh ]high card Ace with King kicker.
The time at which hand ended:Jan 18 2009 09:05 ET
F_Pau wins $286.50 USD from the main pot with high card, Ace with King kicker.
Game #7717104132 starts.

#Game No : 7717104132