* January's Juxtaposed Pokahz Chat *

icemonkey9 · Jan 26, 2009

ChuckTs said:
Not even going to read your post tbh. You know the drill. Cool off, get back into HEM, review your hands to see if you could have played better, improve, get back to the tables tomorrow. Just wait til -1k is your typical bad day

/nads kicked

Yeah I guess the silver lining is that I don't have the impulse to set any buildings on fire or blow anything up or hurl any inanimate objects into the ocean. And I do know the drill, just time to cool off and NOT think about poker at all. so.... until then.

[/ty chuckts]

Deltafrost · Jan 26, 2009

Zach check out table ninja. i think it works for FTP too, hits time bank and basically puts all of the AHK scripts into one program.

http://www.tableninja.com

good day today, only bad part was aa>kk 170bb deep.

variance FTL

bob_tiger · Jan 26, 2009

Deltafrost said:
Zach check out table ninja. i think it works for FTP too, hits time bank and basically puts all of the AHK scripts into one program.

http://www.tableninja.com

good day today, only bad part was aa>kk 170bb deep.

variance FTL

thank you, I been needing one of these.

vanquish · Jan 26, 2009

yea that JJ < 95 was in the warm up

sighlife

cAPSLOCK · Jan 26, 2009

Lemlywinks said:
...it should have at least a 64.

You mean a C=64 right? Again dating myself.

Lode Runner was cool... so was M.U.L.E.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loderunner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.U.L.E.

blankoblanco · Jan 26, 2009

omg i remember lode runner, i kicked that game's ass

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

zachvac said:
Played some 100nl FR on Full Tilt. idk if it's just because it's the weekend but it was super fishy.

Weekend and you moving down a level, imo. I actually feel that PS is fishier than FTP, but only play PS on weekends so it's biased too.

+2 buy-ins in 600 hands. 12-tabled for about an hour and if I just did that every day next month I'd be getting free Stox+CR, whatever the ironman shit is for getting iron, and like $350 in rakeback (assuming the HEM rake figure is correct)

HEM rake figure is correct afaik. But the tables being less loose on weekdays, rake will be a bit lower than you experienced on weekends.

FTP players what kind of scripts do you use?

I use

http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/FullTiltPlanner

and

http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/FullTiltBuddies

but it does not click time bank or help with bet sizing (i use the bet pot button for rough sizing and adjust manually). I only play 6 tables most of the time, so i don't feel the need for more than that, but if you want to play 12+, you should most likely buy

http://www.windyhilltech.com/poker/fts/

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

icemonkey9 said:
I just had my worst day ever. Dropped -$450. Feels horrible. I am sad. Whine whine, bitch bitch. I am sure someone will come along to kick me right in the nads after i post this. yay for that too.

Well, you and have been playing the same stakes and moving up at the same time for quite some time, so of course i had my first -$400+ day two weeks ago too, Ice. Felt kind of bad, tbh, even though i think i'm more zen about it, but that's probably because $$$ is not real money for someone living in eurozone.

Anyway, winning more than $2k since then really put it all in the right perspective. These things do come and go, but long term we profit. Pretty sure it will be fine for you too. That is, if you stop 3bet shoving 2nd nut flush into a paired board when your value bet gets min-raised on the river...

blankoblanco · Jan 26, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
That is, if you stop 3bet shoving 2nd nut flush into a paired board when your value bet gets min-raised on the river...

to be fair, the guy was pretty obviously a huge fish. first of all he wasn't full stacked and he open limped K3o UTG+1. so if he minraises all his flushes and can never get away from a shove, both incredibly likely parameters for a fish, we stack enough weaker flushes for there to be value in a shove

hopefully it was opponent-dependent and icemonkey realizes against anyone competent (or merely tight) at all, you should just call river

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

combuboom said:
to be fair, the guy was pretty obviously a huge fish. first of all he wasn't full stacked and he open limped K3o UTG+1. so if he minraises all his flushes and can never get away from a shove, both incredibly likely parameters for a fish, we stack enough weaker flushes for there to be value in a shove

yeah, maybe villain dependent. Maybe this one is bad enough to stack trips too, and then the shove is super good.

Jagsti · Jan 26, 2009

LOL at you guys showing all your winning graphs and shiz. We hard core poker players put up with the devil variance. I mean you can put up with any shiz if you play like we play, ain't that right Vanq

belladonna05 · Jan 26, 2009

You guys are making me miss Link and Zelda soo bad.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
yeah, maybe villain dependent. Maybe this one is bad enough to stack trips too, and then the shove is super good.

Actually, shoving is only good if villain stacks trips. Under flushes are not enough.

He can have 24 combos of 33,88,K3,K8 for a boat, excluding AK,KK,AA that he would probably play differently. He can also have 8 combos of nut flushes to beat us.

There are only 28 combos of smaller flushes, and that includes villain opening UTG+1 with 92s and crap like that, which i doubt unless his vpip is 100.

24+8 > 28, so shoving is bad even if he calls with all smaller flushes. We need trips in his calling range to make it +EV.

NOTE: commenting about this hand: http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/255077

belladonna05 · Jan 26, 2009

Okay ring game experts...tell me how to profit off quads, cause I'm really sucking at it....again.....

okerStars Game #24288374942: Hold'em Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/01/26 5:10:40 ET
Table 'Alnilam' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: bow777 ($23.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Reppy123 ($29.90 in chips)
Seat 3: belladonna05 ($35.70 in chips)
Seat 4: IntoTheAce ($53.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Virmos ($25.70 in chips)
Seat 6: quincycle ($32.40 in chips)
Seat 7: miketka ($31.30 in chips)
Seat 8: 54gam ($15.10 in chips)
Seat 9: russki04 ($25.30 in chips)
bow777: posts small blind $0.10
Reppy123: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to belladonna05 [Kc Ks]
belladonna05: raises $0.60 to $0.85
IntoTheAce: folds
Virmos: folds
quincycle: folds
miketka: calls $0.85
54gam: folds
russki04: calls $0.85
bow777: folds
Reppy123: calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [5s Kh Kd]
Reppy123: checks
belladonna05: checks
miketka: checks
russki04: checks
*** TURN *** [5s Kh Kd] [Qc]
Reppy123: checks
belladonna05: bets $3.35
miketka: folds
russki04: folds
Reppy123: folds
Uncalled bet ($3.35) returned to belladonna05
belladonna05 collected $3.35 from pot
belladonna05: doesn't show hand

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

belladonna05 said:
Okay ring game experts...tell me how to profit off quads

You can't unless someone else flops a boat.

I much prefer flopping a set than quads, tbh. Also, I prefer middle set to top set. You need villain to have something to pay off your big hands.

blankoblanco · Jan 26, 2009

well he limped UTG+1 w/ K3o, so certainly he could have anything sooted

but yeah, apparently it's much closer than i thought just glancing at it. i wouldn't be surprised if he's bad enough to stack trips, but it's still cutting it very thin. so apparently you're probably best off basically never shoving in that spot, even though it can reach a point where it's so marginal it almost doesn't matter

either way, can't say it was a terrible play vs. a fish in the moment since you don't really have time to sit there and count combinations. the actual math reveals some interesting insight though. since flushes rely on both cards being an exact suit, it really cuts down on the possible combos, so i guess that's something to think about

thx belgo

belladonna05 · Jan 26, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
You can't unless someone else flops a boat.

so just keep checking to the river hoping someone hits?

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

belladonna05 said:
so just keep checking to the river hoping someone hits?

no, your line is fine, imo. it's just a bad flop for you, tbh.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 26, 2009

combuboom said:
either way, can't say it was a terrible play vs. a fish in the moment since you don't really have time to sit there and count combinations.

yeah, i agree. That's why it's important to count them here so we get the right insight later on.

Jurn8 · Jan 26, 2009

ChuckTs said:
Just have bad history with it. Bought a jersey from a 99+ rep guy back in the day when $100 was like everything to me, and not only did he not send me the jersey but didn't reply to any of my emails or anything.

Will take anohter look at it though.

If you pay through paypal then they have to prove they have sent it via a parcel number etc so they cant get out of it. They then are fined and your money back when they dont provide proof.

tenbob · Jan 26, 2009

I am exhausted today. Still trying to recover from Saturday nights madness.

switch0723 · Jan 26, 2009

goldeneye on the N64 is just the greatest game ever to play with a group of friends, so much better than the likes of halo. Since im gangsta i kept my sega, nes, snes and n64 from the olden days so can still bust out the classics

ChuckTs · Jan 26, 2009

Jurn8 said:
If you pay through paypal then they have to prove they have sent it via a parcel number etc so they cant get out of it. They then are fined and your money back when they dont provide proof.

Yeah, ebay/paypal's security measures were something I wasn't aware of back then...

I do aorn though! Think I'm about to buy nes/snes/64 today with all the classic games today!

KingCurtis · Jan 26, 2009

ChuckTs said:
^^^

It's well worth the $200 or whatever I'll spend total on all 3 systems and a shitload of games to have them for myself rather than some program on my PC. Emulators are sick, but I really want the systems

I must have missed that post somewhere lol, well have fun!

ChuckTs · Jan 26, 2009

I will!

:elefant:

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