*** Mo' Money May Chat Thread ***

[blankoblanco]

giving up on the refs /= giving up on your team, thanks

 

[vanquish]

sounds like you're just upset because you're a horrible fan

 

[blankoblanco]

lol, how many celtics games have you actually watched this year? oh, right, you just waited til they won a championship and then put it in your avatar

that's like the epitome of being a bad fan. not even a bad fan but a non-fan, sorry you lose

 

[vanquish]

not my fault they don't show celtics games on TV

 

[vanquish]

the orlando magic recent success has spurred this comment from dwight howard, espn's jeremy schapp reports:

dwight howard: "i can't believe all these bitches goin to our games and cheerin us on. who do these bandwagoners think they are? i hate everyone who likes the magic"

sry guise

 

[vanquish]

deron williams is so underrated

 

[blankoblanco]

the orlando magic recent success has spurred this comment from dwight howard, espn's jeremy schapp reports:

dwight howard: "i can't believe all these bitches goin to our games and cheerin us on. who do these bandwagoners think they are? i hate everyone who likes the magic"

sry guise

 

[Lemlywinks]

deron williams is so underrated

Agreed agreed agreed. Damn I'm constantly arguing with my friends about this. Most of them would take Nate Robinson over him, How much bs is that?

 

[BelgoSuisse]

lol wow 100nl is rigged so I move down to 50nl to own some donks and not only do I get KK < AA AIPF one of the first hands but he 4-bets then tanks before calling my shove with the nuts and then talking shit to me in all caps. Sigh so ****ing tilted right now just don't think I can win .

wtf were you doing at 100nl in the first place?

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Just out of curiosity, can you get any rakeback deals from sites you are already reg at?

Usually not. But if your account is not tagged to any affiliate, it's sometimes possible.

 

[c9h13no3]

Roflz. Is it wrong to abuse the UB pros?

Stage #1435167946: Seven Card Normal $5/$10 - 2009-05-21 03:27:51 (ET)
GORDON_GEKKO - Ante $0.50
WILL_KOHLER - Ante $0.50
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Ante $0.50
Hero - Ante $0.50
BLUEPKWORLD - Ante $0.50
*** 3rd STREET ***
WILL_KOHLER - Pocket H H - 2♦
GORDON_GEKKO - Pocket H H - 6♠
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Pocket H H - 8♣
Hero - Pocket A♥ 9♣ - Q♥
BLUEPKWORLD - Pocket H H - 5♣
WILL_KOHLER - Bring-In $2
GORDON_GEKKO - Folds
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Raises $5 to $5
Hero - Raises $10 to $10
BLUEPKWORLD - Folds
WILL_KOHLER - Folds
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Calls $5
*** 4TH STREET ***
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Pocket H H - 8♣ 10♥
Hero - Pocket A♥ 9♣ - Q♥ 7♣
Hero - Checks
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Bets $5
Hero - Raises $10 to $10
HOLLYW*OODDAVE - Folds (Fold & Show Q♠ 8♥ 8♣ 10♥)
Hero - returned ($5) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero - Does not show
Hero Collects $33.50 from main pot

 

[eNTy]

[x] "play more hands nit" - huck felmuth

 

[BelgoSuisse]

What scripts can i use to make multitabling Absolute Poker easier?

I've just started trying it out and the software is slightly tilting me, but what a joy those 40bb min, 200bb max tables are. Also, players are sooooo bad. Winning at over $2/hand so far at 100nl... (tiny sample size of 100 hands, but still)

 

[PokerVic]

I really only 3bet here if the original raiser is likely to call preflop and then likely to play fit or fold post. Like if he'll set mine in a 3bet pot and then give up.

I see what you're saying. Over the past few months, I've been making a concerted effort to bring my preflop raise % up. I think now I've gone a little too far with it, and I end up driving out hands that I've got a real advantage over.

 

[dsvw56]

sergiozbu: AND AA ITS HAND HAND THAT MOST BEATS HAVE
sergiozbu: FOR YOU TO KNOW


that's for you to know

 

[WVHillbilly]

I see what you're saying. Over the past few months, I've been making a concerted effort to bring my preflop raise % up. I think now I've gone a little too far with it, and I end up driving out hands that I've got a real advantage over.

What is your vpip/pfr? What's your 3bet%?

If I think a preflop raiser folds to too many 3bets, I would much prefer 3betting a hand like J9s to AQs.

 

[dsvw56]

FINALLY! A winning 25NL Session. Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel. Now to begin the race to getting back to even at 25NL. Only 11 more buy-ins to get back.

 

[zachvac]

wtf were you doing at 100nl in the first place?

Thought I posted here, just for some reason I was starting to get results oriented when we flipped for $400 way too happy when I won a flip and pissed when I lost despite the roll having >100 BBs. Also been breakeven there for the month (yeah small sample and all) but now I'm breakeven at 200nl but losing at 100nl, so kinda killed the idea of moving down to crush and restore confidence. Part of it's running bad, part of it's tilt, I'm gonna cut down on tables though for a bit I think and when I feel I'm back playing my A game at 100nl will be moving back up to 200nl asap because I still feel I have a giant edge there if I can quit being results oriented and ****ing think about poker instead of realizing post-session review how terrible I played. Also ~1k below ev on the month, but I was due for that.

/rant

 

[PokerVic]

What is your vpip/pfr? What's your 3bet%?

Lifetime (across all NL limits)
VP$IP: 17%
PFR: 7%

Last 3 months
VP$IP: 15%
PFR: 9%

As for 3-bet%, I have no idea. Does PT2 even track that? I'm planning on shifting to HEM, but that's a project for the fall when I get back on a decent computer. This p.o.s. takes literally 25 minutes to refilter results in PT.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Lifetime (across all NL limits)
VP$IP: 17%
PFR: 7%

Last 3 months
VP$IP: 15%
PFR: 9%

As for 3-bet%, I have no idea. Does PT2 even track that? I'm planning on shifting to HEM, but that's a project for the fall when I get back on a decent computer. This p.o.s. takes literally 25 minutes to refilter results in PT.

PT2 doesn't do 3bet stats (sorry I assumed you were on either HEM or PT3). I can definitely see the desire to increase your PFR though. So is 3betting a hand like AQs your default?

 

[PokerVic]

PT2 doesn't do 3bet stats (sorry I assumed you were on either HEM or PT3). I can definitely see the desire to increase your PFR though. So is 3betting a hand like AQs your default?

Definitely not. A year+ ago my 3-bet range basically included exactly 2 hands. (you can guess which ones) So, I'm still trying to find what works, and which non-monster hands to 3-bet with to balance my range.

 

[tenbob]

The ryan report over here is shocking. It really is amazing that these people are still walking around free to do as they please after abusing tens of thousands of Irelands children.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Definitely not. A year+ ago my 3-bet range basically included exactly 2 hands. (you can guess which ones) So, I'm still trying to find what works, and which non-monster hands to 3-bet with to balance my range.

It's not so much which hands than under which circumstances.

 

[PokerVic]

Well, I can now see what people were talking about with 50NL. My variance is higher than I would have liked, but so far I'm having fun.

This one stung a bit:
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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP2: $63.75 (127.5 bb)
MP3: $20.50 (41 bb)
CO: $40.35 (80.7 bb)
BTN: $32.35 (64.7 bb)
Hero (SB): $48.05 (96.1 bb)
BB: $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $52.50 (105 bb)
UTG+1: $126.50 (253 bb)
MP1: $76.20 (152.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with Q

J

3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: ($2) 9

T

8

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $2, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $10.50, BB folds, MP2 calls $8.50, CO calls $8.50

Turn: ($33.50) 2

(3 players)
Hero bets $37.05 and is all-in, MP2 calls $37.05, CO folds

River: ($107.60) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $107.60 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed Q

J

(a straight, Eight to Queen) and lost (-$48.05 net)
MP2 showed T

T

(a full house, Tens full of Twos) and won $104.60 ($56.55 net)

I'm guessing this hand will put me lifetime into profit with 64o:
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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP3: $31.90 (63.8 bb)
CO: $13.45 (26.9 bb)
BTN: $52.60 (105.2 bb)
SB: $66.75 (133.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $61.60 (123.2 bb)
UTG+1: $22.90 (45.8 bb)
MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $23.30 (46.6 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 4

6

2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.50) K

6

6

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, MP2 calls $1, SB folds

Turn: ($3.50) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP2 raises to $4, Hero raises to $11, MP2 raises to $21.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.80

River: ($47.10) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $47.10 pot ($2.30 rake)
Hero showed 4

6

(three of a kind, Sixes) and won $44.80 ($21.50 net)
MP2 mucked A

A

(two pairs, Aces and Sixes) and lost (-$23.30 net)

Played this one badly, and got rewarded:
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HAND #3
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $31.40 (62.8 bb)
BB: $13.45 (26.9 bb)
UTG: $52.60 (105.2 bb)
MP: $66.25 (132.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $83.60 (167.2 bb)
BTN: $22.90 (45.8 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with J

9

2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) T

8

3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($14.25) 8

(2 players)
BB bets $6.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.45

River: ($27.15) A

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $27.15 pot ($1.30 rake)
BB showed 5

4

(a pair of Eights) and lost (-$13.45 net)
Hero showed J

9

(a pair of Eights) and won $25.85 ($12.40 net)

 

[roundcat]

Belgo, I can't stop thinking about that red line of yours and the hand histories you posted.

What's going through your mind when you make big plays like that to take pots away when there's so much action? Are you making incredible soul reads, sensing weakness, or just taking advantage of players you know don't want to stack off with anything but the nuts?

Obviously those are high variance plays, so what has made them successful for you, if you don't mind me asking?