It's a TARPPP!!!
At least he was gonna pop me on the river.
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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (BB): $63.70 (127.4 bb)
SB: $33.70 (67.4 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 5:heart: A:club:
SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($1) K:spade: 2:diamond: 3:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks
Turn: ($1) Q:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks
River: ($1) 4:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $63.20 and is all-in, SB calls $28.20 and is all-in
Results: $67.40 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed 5:heart: A:club: (a straight, Ace to Five) and won $66.90 ($33.20 net)
SB mucked A:diamond: K:club: (a pair of Kings) and lost (-$33.70 net)
At least he was gonna pop me on the river.
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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (BB): $63.70 (127.4 bb)
SB: $33.70 (67.4 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 5:heart: A:club:
SB completes, Hero checks
Flop: ($1) K:spade: 2:diamond: 3:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks
Turn: ($1) Q:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks
River: ($1) 4:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $63.20 and is all-in, SB calls $28.20 and is all-in
Results: $67.40 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed 5:heart: A:club: (a straight, Ace to Five) and won $66.90 ($33.20 net)
SB mucked A:diamond: K:club: (a pair of Kings) and lost (-$33.70 net)
sweet, i take 4 days off from playing and this is the 10th hand back today. FFS GIVE ME A BREAK POKERSTARS!!!!!
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
CO: $70.85 (70.9 bb)
BTN: $53 (53 bb)
Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
BB: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
MP: $101.80 (101.8 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 6
6
MP raises to $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3.50, BB raises to $7, MP calls $3, BTN calls $3, Hero calls $3
Flop: ($28) 6
5
5
(4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, MP calls $5, BTN calls $5, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $5, MP calls $5, BTN calls $5
Turn: ($68) 9
(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $6, BTN folds, Hero raises to $35, BB calls $35, MP calls $29
River: ($173) 2
(3 players)
Hero bets $48 and is all-in, BB calls $46.50 and is all-in, MP calls $48
Results: $315.50 pot ($2 rake)
Hero showed 6
6
(a full house, Sixes full of Fives) and lost (-$100 net)
MP showed 5
5
(four of a kind, Fives) and won $313.50 ($213.50 net)
BB mucked Q
Q
(two pairs, Queens and Fives) and lost (-$98.50 net)
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
CO: $70.85 (70.9 bb)
BTN: $53 (53 bb)
Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
BB: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
MP: $101.80 (101.8 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 6
MP raises to $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3.50, BB raises to $7, MP calls $3, BTN calls $3, Hero calls $3
Flop: ($28) 6
Hero checks, BB bets $5, MP calls $5, BTN calls $5, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $5, MP calls $5, BTN calls $5
Turn: ($68) 9
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $6, BTN folds, Hero raises to $35, BB calls $35, MP calls $29
River: ($173) 2
Hero bets $48 and is all-in, BB calls $46.50 and is all-in, MP calls $48
Results: $315.50 pot ($2 rake)
Hero showed 6
MP showed 5
BB mucked Q
eNTy said:
I was just thinking out loud moreorless.
Basically, i used to be a litle paranoid about ppl bluffing me. I'd also make some spewy bluffs sometimes (bluffing w/ little to no equity in the pot), which would reinforce the idea that ppl can bluff in bad spots (since i was doing it). Net result is that i would often call down quite light, and pick off alot of bluffs (and also get owned sometimes). So once i fixed it and started to understand poker better, i think there is a tendency to assign similar thought processes to poorer players. For instance, it becomes a little hard to believe that somebody could just spaz out with only one overcard, because it is just such a horribly spewy play. But bad players don't think like this and don't make plays that make sense, so when something looks "odd" you probably shouldn't assign much logic to it (for ex. if villain shouldnt' be bluffing in a spot but they are betting, it probably means they are just running a horrible bluff rather than they are at the top of their range).
Was in relation to switch talking about fish value betting bottom pair when you snap off a bluff w/ A high because they shouldn't have much they can bet on the river in that circumstance. It doesn't make the read any less correct than if villain showed up with air, it is just a situation where a fish is making a play that makes absolutely no sense - yet you are assigning sense to a player that is probably incapable of understanding logical poker processes. It's just something i have been thinking of as of late, as i think i've become a little too weak tight in the last while (probably as an overreaction to removing spew and partly as a reaction to constantly running into the top of everybody's ranges for > month) and giving ppl too much credit where it is not deserved. Far too much shitty thinking like "he can't rep much here so surely he wouldn't try to bluff" which definitely works vs good thinking players but is one level above where you should be against a poorer player (ie. they aren't repping much coz they suck at bluffing).
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Pretty amazing how piss-poor Full Tilt's support is when it comes to responding to e-mails. I sent them an e-mail yesterday afternoon and didn't get a response, so I sent another one this morning. Just checked my e-mail and not a response to either one. Does it really take 24 hours to reply to a simple question? This is one of the biggest reasons they will never be better than Stars. Suck it, FT.
Not sure if anyone has seen the thread or cares at all but in the thread about Mike Matusow's book the auther popped in and asked if anyone had any questions.
Im not terribly interested in the book but think its pretty cool the author is willing to take questions if anyone is interested.
Im not terribly interested in the book but think its pretty cool the author is willing to take questions if anyone is interested.
Just sent this to fulltilt after their 3rd email about a $5 bonus they have for me, hopefully this gets me in the elusive rakeback club. 😀
"I'm sorry but a $5 bonus, although a nice thought, will not get me playing at full tilt poker again, i like the site and have no problems with anything except for the small matter of not having rakeback while other (newer) players do, which i find absurd, and a kick in the teeth to loyal players who unfortunately joined before rakeback was introduced.
As i'm sure you all know, poker is about finding a game where you feel you have an edge and exploiting said edge to equal profit, if i am sitting on a table where 50% of the players have rakeback and i do not then they have a significant edge over me and it is not worth my while to play at that table, i have been playing at my local card room for a good 5 years now and if, one day, i went in there, sat at a table and discovered that half the players there were paying less rake than me, and further more, that they had only joined yesterday, then i would not be very happy at all and i would definetly be taking my custom elsewhere.
Alas, there is a solution that could be of benefit to both parties, I currently log around 30-40k hands p/m at another poker site, and although i enjoy it there i am looking to split my bankroll between 2 sites, for superstitious reasons, when i'm running bad at one site i can switch to the other and see if it improves, if i were to be included in the rakeback goodness that is going on at fulltilt then half of my bankroll would certainly be winging it's way through the telephone lines to your site, if you really do want my custom back then this would go a long way to bridge the painful gap that exists between us at the minute, just a suggestion.
Thank you"
"I'm sorry but a $5 bonus, although a nice thought, will not get me playing at full tilt poker again, i like the site and have no problems with anything except for the small matter of not having rakeback while other (newer) players do, which i find absurd, and a kick in the teeth to loyal players who unfortunately joined before rakeback was introduced.
As i'm sure you all know, poker is about finding a game where you feel you have an edge and exploiting said edge to equal profit, if i am sitting on a table where 50% of the players have rakeback and i do not then they have a significant edge over me and it is not worth my while to play at that table, i have been playing at my local card room for a good 5 years now and if, one day, i went in there, sat at a table and discovered that half the players there were paying less rake than me, and further more, that they had only joined yesterday, then i would not be very happy at all and i would definetly be taking my custom elsewhere.
Alas, there is a solution that could be of benefit to both parties, I currently log around 30-40k hands p/m at another poker site, and although i enjoy it there i am looking to split my bankroll between 2 sites, for superstitious reasons, when i'm running bad at one site i can switch to the other and see if it improves, if i were to be included in the rakeback goodness that is going on at fulltilt then half of my bankroll would certainly be winging it's way through the telephone lines to your site, if you really do want my custom back then this would go a long way to bridge the painful gap that exists between us at the minute, just a suggestion.
Thank you"
Orange,
Did you sign up through an affiliate or are you just on the list?
From my knowledge if you signed up through affiliate, you are out of luck and if you are on the list then you just gotta wait, but I think most people get it within a few months.
I am not sure I follow your logic really though, who cares how much rake other players pay? The only thing there is jealousy really. If anything its better for other people to get rakeback since its just more money for the losing players to lose to you instead of the site. Obviously you want it to, but its to increase your rate not to make it fair.
Did you sign up through an affiliate or are you just on the list?
From my knowledge if you signed up through affiliate, you are out of luck and if you are on the list then you just gotta wait, but I think most people get it within a few months.
I am not sure I follow your logic really though, who cares how much rake other players pay? The only thing there is jealousy really. If anything its better for other people to get rakeback since its just more money for the losing players to lose to you instead of the site. Obviously you want it to, but its to increase your rate not to make it fair.