The More I Learn Poker, The Faster I Bust

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Honestly, the more I learn about poker, the faster I seem to bust. šŸ˜‚

Before, Iā€™d just play and not think too much. Now Iā€™m thinking about ranges, ICM, position, pot odds, all that stuff... and somehow Iā€™m out even faster.

Maybe Iā€™m overthinking every hand now. Anyone else ever go through this?
 
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When we add new techniques to your repertoire we are bound to make more mistakes until we get used to them. Judging from your posting here, you are learning and growing by leaps and bounds. It is a lot to take on. Just keep at it. Keep practising and the results will come.

Remember also that for the most part we are playing against BAD players who are not thinking the hand nearly as deeply as we are. They are not going to realize, let alone care, that they shouldn't be betting or calling in this spot, or that they shouldn't be jamming this deep, or that they shouldn't be limping AA.
 
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I think one thing that is easy to forget is that poker is not an exact science. Learning about ranges, ICM, position and pot odds is important, but none of those things can tell you exactly what will happen in a specific hand. There are so many variables involved. Different opponents play differently, the table dynamics change, stack sizes change, and sometimes even the best decision can end with you getting knocked out. You can make the mathematically correct decision and still lose the hand. I also think it is possible to overthink poker. At some point, you have to use what you have learned and trust your decisions instead of trying to calculate every little thing during the tournament. For me, studying poker should make your decisions clearer, not make you afraid to make a decision.
 
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Yeah, it tricky to learn a lot at once, but then even trickier to apply it.

For example, say you learn about ranges, and therefore you start putting all players on sensible raising hands, bit you're playing freerolls and micros, your end result is not necessarily going to be accurate, if the villain is raing all kinds of other nonsense. Sometimes, I think we have to learn as much as possible, but remember that at lower levels the population on average are not playing like that. So we have to instantly adjust again. Don't bluff catch rivers as much, don't bluff as much, value bet calling stations bigger etc
 
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Semprini said:
When we add new techniques to your repertoire we are bound to make more mistakes until we get used to them. Judging from your posting here, you are learning and growing by leaps and bounds. It is a lot to take on. Just keep at it. Keep practising and the results will come.

Remember also that for the most part we are playing against BAD players who are not thinking the hand nearly as deeply as we are. They are not going to realize, let alone care, that they shouldn't be betting or calling in this spot, or that they shouldn't be jamming this deep, or that they shouldn't be limping AA.
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That makes sense. I guess adding all these new concepts at once can make me overthink things until they become more natural.
 
SpanRmonka said:
Yeah, it tricky to learn a lot at once, but then even trickier to apply it.

For example, say you learn about ranges, and therefore you start putting all players on sensible raising hands, bit you're playing freerolls and micros, your end result is not necessarily going to be accurate, if the villain is raing all kinds of other nonsense. Sometimes, I think we have to learn as much as possible, but remember that at lower levels the population on average are not playing like that. So we have to instantly adjust again. Don't bluff catch rivers as much, don't bluff as much, value bet calling stations bigger etc
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Thatā€™s true. I think Iā€™m starting to overthink some spots now instead of just trusting what Iā€™ve learned.
 
Das991992 said:
Thatā€™s true. I think Iā€™m starting to overthink some spots now instead of just trusting what Iā€™ve learned.
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When you go deep and you can tell that the player that are left are good quality, playing a more studied game, then you can maybe attempt to apply more of the new stuff you are learning more literally
 
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When you go deep and you can tell that the player that are left are good quality, playing a more studied game, then you can maybe attempt to apply more of the new stuff you are learning more literally
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Yeah, that makes sense. I guess when the field gets tougher, thatā€™s when some of these concepts become more useful.
 
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Das991992 said:
Yeah, that makes sense. I guess when the field gets tougher, thatā€™s when some of these concepts become more useful.
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They are always useful, as a base to learn where to deviate from, and therefore understand the why we do things certain ways and why we adjust
 
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Knowledge is excellent to have - practical application of that knowledge is how you find success. Assessing the application of your knowledge is the next growth path for you.
Win /lose is not an assessment. Reviewing hands is.

it is difficult to share hands but that is the fastest way to evaluate application of theory.

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I read a great quote today that said ā€œyou need to be the smartest player at the table or the the dumbest. Everyone else is just confused.ā€ Lol
 
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dannystanks said:
I read a great quote today that said ā€œyou need to be the smartest player at the table or the the dumbest. Everyone else is just confused.ā€ Lol
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Thatā€™s a pretty funny way to put it šŸ˜‚ I guess being somewhere in the middle is where all the confusion happens.

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Be positive everytime
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For sure, staying positive helps. Iā€™m just trying to learn from the mistakes and keep improving.
 
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Das991992 said:
Honestly, the more I learn about poker, the faster I seem to bust. šŸ˜‚

Before, Iā€™d just play and not think too much. Now Iā€™m thinking about ranges, ICM, position, pot odds, all that stuff... and somehow Iā€™m out even faster.

Maybe Iā€™m overthinking every hand now. Anyone else ever go through this?
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You might be overconfident šŸ˜…
Do you review those hands? Just to check if you're taking the correct decisions.
 
Marshmalo1994 said:
You might be overconfident šŸ˜…
Do you review those hands? Just to check if you're taking the correct decisions.
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I do i think i m learning everytime
 
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Das991992 said:
Honestly, the more I learn about poker, the faster I seem to bust. šŸ˜‚

Before, Iā€™d just play and not think too much. Now Iā€™m thinking about ranges, ICM, position, pot odds, all that stuff... and somehow Iā€™m out even faster.

Maybe Iā€™m overthinking every hand now. Anyone else ever go through this?
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Your assumption seems to be that you're actually doing something wrong. I've been studying GTO lately and the theory will tell you that losing is just part of the game. That's doesn't make it any easier to accept, but it is what it is. That's why bankroll management is likely the most important skill to learn and to master.
 
Thats why I lovw beginners luck. You dont know the rules, the way to play etc. the moment you understand it, your mind attracts the stuff you fear and it happens. šŸ¤£

now you need to learn how to manage risk
 
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bronwen777 said:
Thats why I lovw beginners luck. You dont know the rules, the way to play etc. the moment you understand it, your mind attracts the stuff you fear and it happens. šŸ¤£

now you need to learn how to manage risk
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yeah I get that.
once you learn more, you start second guessing everything.
managing the risk becomes a big part of it too.
 
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