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Basically, the fans of folding all hands, give away all their chips over time, but there are a small number who initially succeed and build a good stack, but later on these players have a hard time maintaining it. You need to play wisely, and stick to your strategy.
 
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  • #27
Pulse_69 said:
It's great to get to the table with aggressive amateur beginners, it's very easy to take away their stack
Beginners often play aggressively because it's basically all they can do, as they lack the skills to play more intelligently and deliberately. However, experienced players who play aggressively can often be quite dangerous opponents and you should be wary of such players.
 
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Live poker definitely gives you more of a read on people compared to online, where you’re relying on notes and HUD stats. I agree that at 2/5 and 5/10, you have to be willing to take risks against aggressive players, but knowing which risks to take is what separates amateurs from real crushers. Tampa sounds like a dream for steady, low-variance profit, but do you think playing against weaker competition long-term might limit growth?
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depends have went to vegas and can say is always 2 guys aggro in 6 or more table imo...Id still call them amateur's not full time players etc...YOU have to be PREPARED to risk to beat them at 2/5 5/10 etc....is a lot better to play say a boat in tampa where 9 out of 9 players will be older retired guys on vacation who just want some chatter and laughs....THE biggest thing you need to realize is how to sum up your competition....If you can do that you move into the next category and maybe have what it takes to even beat pros who are aggressive etc...just saying...identifying in poker is sooo important and biggest thing for me is identifying who someone is in life live poker for sure ...tournaments online is a lot tougher why to build a database of notes....i think most people write notes wrong but i think differently then most....i started it was jack rabbit idiot etc...now i do their betting patterns i can attack
 
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I don't like these amateurs who are also aggressive in the game.
 
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i say 'allin to win ' ! go big or go home in CC freerolls .
 
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  • #31
Pulse_69 said:
yes, that's right, but they lose chips
most of the players lose chips;)
 
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It all depends on how you define a beginner. They could be a regular player who recently switched to a new poker room, and such "newbies" can be a trap. You might even be the aggressive amateur in this situation, so be careful not to underestimate others. Always stay alert, as aggressive play can backfire if you're not reading the board correctly.
 
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Pulse_69 said:
It's great to get to the table with aggressive amateur beginners, it's very easy to take away their stack
Try playing Omaha against them it can get a little faustrating
 
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Try playing Omaha against them it can get a little faustrating
In Omaha, there are even more people who don't fully understand the game, the main thing is to distinguish.
 
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São os mais perigosos!
 
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I see lots of 'aggressive' players in the Cardschat freerolls. It's the "I really don't care, do you" attitude championed by the American first lady.

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Contrary to popular opinion, many are not "newer/weaker players" but rather are long term regulars. Most Cardschat freeroll players are not newbies. I do it myself sometimes when I'm distracted and looking for a Hail Mary double/triple up. Pretty much never works for me, but that doesn't matter because by that time I'm anxious to move on to something else.

We should have a penalty point system at Cardschat where that kind of play reduces or zeros out the amount that you can win if you manage to make it to the top five. I guarantee that would change the game dynamics significantly. I'm not talking about the kind of aggressive play that makes sense in the moment, but rather the stupid, gratuitous stuff.
People are allowed to play however they want. U want people to make wrong moves, aggressive or not. It's not up to u to decide what people do with their (free) chips.

Hope that was a troll with the points system but pretty sure it was not. Rarely ever read such a bad suggestion 😅 wow
 
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People are allowed to play however they want. U want people to make wrong moves, aggressive or not. It's not up to u to decide what people do with their (free) chips.

Hope that was a troll with the points system but pretty sure it was not. Rarely ever read such a bad suggestion 😅 wow
Well, you don't read much do you? I dare say there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of posts on Cardschat either complaining about the incessant shoving for no good reason, or laughing at the mindless nature of it. If Cardschat is intended to be an advocate of good play (as the course and the learning threads suggest) it makes sense to look for more proactive ways of encouraging smart play.

You could offer an alternative, or you could just troll me. You chose the latter. That's the last of your posts I'll ever see.
 
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Well, you don't read much do you? I dare say there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of posts on Cardschat either complaining about the incessant shoving for no good reason, or laughing at the mindless nature of it. If Cardschat is intended to be an advocate of good play (as the course and the learning threads suggest) it makes sense to look for more proactive ways of encouraging smart play.

You could offer an alternative, or you could just troll me. You chose the latter. That's the last of your posts I'll ever see.
I read ur post and I was by no means trolling u. Ur suggestion is very questionable and it's not even possible to implement something like this.

How should this even work? U really think mods would then observe every hand and decide which play gets points and which not? Or u will send hands to mods directly, right? "This guy deserves points, he shoved 72 pre. (and I lost!)."

Everyone can play however they want. Advocate of good play 😅 yes there are maybe learning courses on the site but that does not mean everyone has to read and then use that material...in their daily community freerolls 😅 And will get punished if not.

If u don't like those players I suggest u to play real buy-ins. Problem fixed 💯 the more u go up.

And please don't be so sensitive and triggered. Im sure if u think twice about it u will get it 🙂
 
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Some player think they can win with just IK IQ haha , they always is my resources when I meet them
 
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You can not only easily take all the chips from an aggressive beginner, but also lose all your own to him.
 
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That's true) I think every poker player loves opponents who sit down at the poker table and just give away chips. In real life, in the poker clubs where I played, we called such players sweet) or sweet buns)) this is with kindness without any aggression). But sometimes there comes a moment when such a player starts to get lucky) it is especially interesting to watch this in live poker, when he is still drunk and falls asleep on the go)) and he is dealt nuts, almost every time he enters the game)). The whole table is trying to catch him, and as a result, all the chips are in his box)). It is clear that in the end, such a player will lose everything he won, if one of his friends does not stop him in time. But in those moments when such a situation occurs and the other players at the poker table cannot understand what is happening and what to do about it, it looks very funny).
 
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I think so too. Beginners' aggression is one of their most common and primitive mistakes. And yes, I also consider such players to be among the best opponents.
 
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I completely agree
 
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Nothing better than sitting with aggressive amateurs—just wait for a hand and let them donate their stack. 😈
 
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Against these players you have to wait for good hands to get all your chips.
 
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thetick33 said:
depends have went to vegas and can say is always 2 guys aggro in 6 or more table imo...Id still call them amateur's not full time players etc...YOU have to be PREPARED to risk to beat them at 2/5 5/10 etc....is a lot better to play say a boat in tampa where 9 out of 9 players will be older retired guys on vacation who just want some chatter and laughs....THE biggest thing you need to realize is how to sum up your competition....If you can do that you move into the next category and maybe have what it takes to even beat pros who are aggressive etc...just saying...identifying in poker is sooo important and biggest thing for me is identifying who someone is in life live poker for sure ...tournaments online is a lot tougher why to build a database of notes....i think most people write notes wrong but i think differently then most....i started it was jack rabbit idiot etc...now i do their betting patterns i can attack
Totally agree with you on identifying the competition. Live poker is all about reading people and adapting to their tendencies. Those aggressive guys at higher stakes can be a challenge, but if you're willing to take calculated risks and stay sharp, you can definitely outmaneuver them. I also like your approach to note-taking—focusing on betting patterns rather than just labeling players. It’s next-level strategy that can really pay off, especially when transitioning to online tournaments.
 
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It can be tiring to play, but in the end, beginners will make more mistakes.
 
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make a lot misstakes but i like that)
 
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they open too many hands, but they bet in the hope of getting a card)
 
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In the medium to long term, aggressive amateur players are a joy for anyone who knows how to play poker with a modicum of common sense. I really like these players, and if they're happy like this, I'm happy too, receiving their money in games.
 
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