I've said this many times, beginner players tend to be favored in the first few weeks to get them to deposit, then they start losing everything, this is a classic, especially on GG Poker, in fact, I don't recommend that Casino, it's the most rigged of them all, that site has no shame at all, I recommend Pokerstars/888Poker (Cash and Tournaments) and WPT (Tournaments only).
I can understand the frustration, especially when the same pattern seems to repeat in the final stages. But I'd be careful about assuming the algorithm is targeting certain players without solid evidence. Sometimes variance can create incredibly convincing patterns over a large sample. I'd be more interested in tracking the hands and decisions over time and seeing whether the numbers actually support the feeling.
I understand how frustrating that can feel. We've all had periods where it seems like nothing goes our way. However, I don't believe the site is intentionally favoring new players. Variance in poker can last much longer than most people expect, especially in tournaments and all-in situations.
What helped me was reviewing my own hands, managing my bankroll better, and taking short breaks when I felt frustrated. Sometimes bad runs make us notice only the unlucky outcomes. Staying patient and focusing on making good decisions is the only thing we can really control.
What helped me was reviewing my own hands, managing my bankroll better, and taking short breaks when I felt frustrated. Sometimes bad runs make us notice only the unlucky outcomes. Staying patient and focusing on making good decisions is the only thing we can really control.
Gibberish is still gibberish even when repeated.CaioRJ said:
If people win, they dont need to deposit. If you are going to share conspiracy theories, at least create one, that makes sense.CaioRJ said:
Sound pretty natural to me, that most beginners are losing. After all poker is a zero sum game with rake, and more experienced players will be better than beginners everything else being equal.CaioRJ said:
What you really mean, is, that you lost more there compared to other sites?CaioRJ said:
I also still prefer PokerStars over GG Poker, but to be fair GG Poker have some advantages like significantly lower rake for most micro and low stakes tournaments and higher activity. GG Pokers Battle Royal is not a particularly great game, but you never need to wait more than a minute or two for a new game to start, and PokerStars cant match this any more.CaioRJ said:
GG Poker also have some cool inventions like full ring cash games with an ante, the option to straddle and a max buyin of 200BB instead of the usual 100BB. As for 888 Poker I can not recommend the site at the moment. Everything above microstakes is basically dead, and customer service is terrible. Emails remain unanswered for weeks, and many people are currently facing problems with payouts. Cant play on WPT so no opinion about that site.
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I don't think there's a single site I don't "trust". I don't win at most of them because I don't take them seriously. That's a result of Freeroll Derangement Syndrome (FDS). Kind of like Trump Derangement Syndrome but for poker.Rachidao said:
I love Cardschat, but if I'm being honest, I think I caught FDS here. 🙂
Your thoughts about an algorithm deciding who wins is almost impossible to believe...regardless of the cards or your good or bad luck the so called algorithm cannot know or even guess how all the players will play..will they fold, raise check or bluff. not in the algorithms vocabulary, In reality I have been playing poker of various types since 1960..I have won/lost in live cash games and tournaments as frequent as on line..in live games there is no algorithm. just the players their cards and their chips. so really one experiences the similar variances in all types of poker. Seriously just insert the word variance for your term algorithm...and good luck on the tables.kompany80 said:
First of all, I should mention that I only play freerolls. I play on four poker rooms, and I've noticed that on some of them I seem to have much worse results. I rarely win anything there, even though my skill level is the same everywhere, of course.
So here is my personal ranking, from best to worst. I want to emphasize that this ranking is based only on my own experience—someone else might have a completely different ranking.
I'd also like to know which sites are your favorites and which ones have been the worst for you when it comes to making money.
So, my ranking is:
So here is my personal ranking, from best to worst. I want to emphasize that this ranking is based only on my own experience—someone else might have a completely different ranking.
I'd also like to know which sites are your favorites and which ones have been the worst for you when it comes to making money.
So, my ranking is:
- 888poker
- PokerStars (back when they still had freerolls)
- CoinPoker
- GGPoker
gg is the biggest scam platform in the world it´s not even a poker site in my opinion.
This is known as the "beginner's honeymoon." I often notice such players in tournaments; it seems like they can win every coin flip and go deep in the event. However, this doesn't last long—the long run eventually sets things straight. Without working on your game and developing your skills, poker won't yield any dividends.
When it comes to Google and Facebook, you are right to be suspicious, but on poker sites, I think not. Cards can be wicked on-line and in the real world. Live with it or give up. Too late for me to take that advice!
Sorry, but if you’re calling these boards with nothing but an overpair like AAor KK, it’s probably not some suspicious algorithm that’s making you lose more and more.
AA is obviously a great starting hand, but on this particular board, how many hands that are realistically calling you can actually beat it?
9T and QT for two pair, 99, 44, TT, QQ and 88 for sets, 67 for a straight, and then all the Jx hands like 9J, TJ, QJ, KJ and AJ, plus plenty of suited spade combinations.
Putting your tournament life on the line with just one pair, even if it’s the best possible top or overpair, is, in my opinion, a pretty risky move on a board like this.
I do sometimes feel like online poker sites are rigged too, especially when you see some of the crazy hands that happen. But then go on YouTube and search for crazy poker hands — you’ll see that the exact same madness happens at live poker tables too.
Sometimes you just have to hate the game, not the platform.
AA is obviously a great starting hand, but on this particular board, how many hands that are realistically calling you can actually beat it?
9T and QT for two pair, 99, 44, TT, QQ and 88 for sets, 67 for a straight, and then all the Jx hands like 9J, TJ, QJ, KJ and AJ, plus plenty of suited spade combinations.
Putting your tournament life on the line with just one pair, even if it’s the best possible top or overpair, is, in my opinion, a pretty risky move on a board like this.
I do sometimes feel like online poker sites are rigged too, especially when you see some of the crazy hands that happen. But then go on YouTube and search for crazy poker hands — you’ll see that the exact same madness happens at live poker tables too.
Sometimes you just have to hate the game, not the platform.
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According to the screenshot the action was all-in preflop. So just a standard set-up, where two players have to get it in preflop, and one of them have to lose. One player was lucky to have AA, when someone else had TT, and then the guy with TT got lucky to hit a set. One is not more unfair than the other, and it takes care of itself it in long run.Rene Thee said:
I feel something similar. I started with a bankroll of $10. I increased the bankroll to $60. Then I saw the bankroll melt away to zero. This lasted 3 weeks. Two going up and one going down.
I see two hypotheses:
1- The algorithm identified and 'marked' me. I prefer not to believe this, but I don't rule out this possibility.
2- The strong winning streak altered my discipline with overconfidence. (in this case it is also difficult to believe because the hands with which I lost were always premium. It's okay to lose with AA 40% of the time. But losing 10 out of 10 is at least strange.
I see two hypotheses:
1- The algorithm identified and 'marked' me. I prefer not to believe this, but I don't rule out this possibility.
2- The strong winning streak altered my discipline with overconfidence. (in this case it is also difficult to believe because the hands with which I lost were always premium. It's okay to lose with AA 40% of the time. But losing 10 out of 10 is at least strange.
